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Old 11-13-09, 06:11 AM   #1
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Network performance sucks

Ok guys, connectivity to BF has been spotty to non-existent for two days now.
Time to either roll back whatever 'upgrades' you are trying to implement and go back to the drawing board, or get the darned thing working right, dontcha think?
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Old 11-13-09, 07:29 AM   #2
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I've been having a lot of problems as well.
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Old 11-13-09, 09:26 AM   #3
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The tech team of IB have been working on this for the past two days, we are trying to get to the bottom of this.
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Please dont outsmart the censor. That is a very expensive censor and every time one of you guys outsmart it it makes someone at the home office feel bad. We dont wanna do that. So dont cleverly disguise bad words.
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Old 11-14-09, 04:30 AM   #4
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i want the $25 that someone paid for my red star back.
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Old 11-14-09, 07:12 AM   #5
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I only feel love for everyone on BF and IB
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Old 11-14-09, 07:19 AM   #6
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From not being able to post to double posting. ugh
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Old 11-14-09, 07:21 AM   #7
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The irony is that I tried for a day and a half to reply to this thread, and couldn't.
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Old 11-14-09, 07:23 AM   #8
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It was the Bikesnob.com ads that did it, right? I never noticed those before the problems. Looks like the top banner area height has been reduced a bit, it seems. Now that the site works again, that top banner area is still not right. The Bike Forums logo is dropped a few pixels in Firefox 3.5.5, Chrome 3.0.195.32 and Chrome 3.0.195.33.

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Old 11-14-09, 07:27 AM   #9
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Well, now that we're back up and running, IB will be letting you know what exactly happened later today. I have very limited information, myself, and only know it was resulting from some malicious actions taken against multiple sites.
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Old 11-14-09, 07:32 AM   #10
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malicious actions? harsh!
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search is still farked.
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Old 11-14-09, 09:36 AM   #12
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at least the site is back up and running again. ive been on the verge of raging tantrums for the past two days when this site displays the "page cannot be displayed/network timed out" message
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Old 11-14-09, 01:27 PM   #13
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I just posted a message here and now it's gone. Was it deleted, or is this a bug?
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Old 11-14-09, 01:29 PM   #14
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Neil, check your PM's.....
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No problemo, thanks Tom.
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Hey guys.... I just want to ensure you that this outage has nothing to do with the recent maintenance and upgrades that we've been doing. This is due to a cyber attack that we've been battling. We should be out of the woods here shortly.
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Old 11-15-09, 05:39 PM   #17
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I'm just glad your back. whew
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I just got hacked at another site by a crew of psychotics. I'm rather certain this attack is on
going. I've alerted MicroSoft security. Knocked a bunch of us clear off the net while we were working.
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Hey guys.... I just want to ensure you that this outage has nothing to do with the recent maintenance and upgrades that we've been doing. This is due to a cyber attack that we've been battling. We should be out of the woods here shortly.
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Seriously...change your screen name. While it may 'Dick' in real life alot of peeps will think its in reference to your personality. I'm just sayin'......
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Gee, anyone would think it was just BFs affected.

No, BFs resides on the carsdirect.com and related servers owned by Internet Brands. There has been a whole host of IB sites vaporise. At least the car sites were put back together faster than BFs, but then that just shows the order of things -- BFs probably ranks pretty lowly in terms of revenues for IB.

A member of another bicycling forums conjectured that Internet Brands has upped the ante on its vBulletin pricing and made some users very, very unhappy. I doubt IB will tell us the real story -- so far, what has been on here has made it appear as though BFs is the only site to have gone down.

For a company that last year turned over $107 million, one would have thought its security would have been as tight as a drum. Evidently not.
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Gee, anyone would think it was just BFs affected.

No, BFs resides on the carsdirect.com and related servers owned by Internet Brands. There has been a whole host of IB sites vaporise. At least the car sites were put back together faster than BFs, but then that just shows the order of things -- BFs probably ranks pretty lowly in terms of revenues for IB.


A member of another bicycling forums conjectured that Internet Brands has upped the ante on its vBulletin pricing and made some users very, very unhappy. I doubt IB will tell us the real story -- so far, what has been on here has made it appear as though BFs is the only site to have gone down.

For a company that last year turned over $107 million, one would have thought its security would have been as tight as a drum. Evidently not.
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"In essence, they banned me because I said I was not going to be spending any more money on their software. They also banned me from vb.org which effectively ends my license, as I cannot receive updates, plugins, support (oh, did I mention since they banned me they won't reply to support tickets?)" he writes.

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In the past, a user might pay $160 for a vBulletin owned license, before renewing it each year for an extra $40 to $60. Now, if they want security and support, they'll have to spring for vBulletin 4.0, which is priced at $250. Users do have the option of keeping their current licenses active until their year-end expiration.

The company is currently offering version 4.0 at a discount, but this $130 offer is only available prior to the software's release. It expires at the end of this week. "I need to renew my subscription to receive security updates to my owned license for my forum software," a third user tells The Reg. "I cannot do this. I am being asked to pay again for a license for vBulletin 4, which is not released, and the new CMS suite, which is not even available as an online demo. In other words, my owned license is now worthless, and I am being forced to pay for something that is not available."

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