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    Please disable Search-Engine-Friendly Archive: it makes it harder to search the site

    Hi,

    Thank you very much for running BikeForums.

    I like to use Google Advanced Search to search BikeForums. But when I click on a search result link, I'm taken to an ugly page with tiny text which doesn't show which text is quoted and which isn't.

    Could you please disable vBulletin's Search-Engine-Friendly Archive feature? It's easy to disable. And it's worth disabling. Wayne Luke, the head of vBulletin's tech support department, says it's "pretty much outlived its usefulness".

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    It's one extra click (View Full Version). Deal with it.
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    I STILL miss East Hill :) Rollfast's Avatar
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    The site is also owned by a Google company, I think.
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    They can't fix expansion joints, because they expand.
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    The Site Administrator: Currently at home recovering from a couple of strokes,please contact my assistnt admins for forum issues Tom Stormcrowe's Avatar
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    Archives like this use less storage bandwidth for the drive by readers that don't participate in the forums actively. These archives are bar none, the largest source of new members joining to get full forum function, so we don't have any plans in the near future to change this.
    on light duty due to illness; please contact my assistants for forum issues. They are Siu Blue Wind, or CbadRider or the other 3 star folk. I am currently at home recovering from a couple of strokes. I am making good progress, happily.


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    They do save bandwidth, but they're frustrating to read. In the archives, there's absolutely no indication of which text is quoted and which text is new.

    So—it's true—you may be saving money on bandwidth.

    But you're sending many new visitors to ugly, hard-to-read pages. How much later ad and subscription revenue are you losing because of that?


    P.S. May I suggest you rename this thread to "Please disable Search-Engine-Friendly Archive: it makes it harder to search the site". I mistakenly entered just half a title at first.
    Last edited by robsonhill; 03-16-12 at 11:11 AM. Reason: Clarifying.
    "As Helmet Head suggested, [scuba] divers are much more serious about safety. They study on land before they even take their first dive, and most continue to study and learn throughout their diving careers. [...] As cyclists, we often learn everything we ever know in kindergarten, and we love to blame any mishap on cagers, poor road design or an autocentric society." --Roody.

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    there is a link to the full version on the archive link. I just use that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robsonhill View Post
    They do save bandwidth, but they're frustrating to read. In the archives, there's absolutely no indication of which text is quoted and which text is new.

    So—it's true—you may be saving money on bandwidth.

    But you're sending many new visitors to ugly, hard-to-read pages. How much later ad and subscription revenue are you losing because of that?


    P.S. May I suggest you rename this thread to "Please disable Search-Engine-Friendly Archive: it makes it harder to search the site". I mistakenly entered just half a title at first.
    We aren't. As I said, they are the largest source of new registrations we've got.
    on light duty due to illness; please contact my assistants for forum issues. They are Siu Blue Wind, or CbadRider or the other 3 star folk. I am currently at home recovering from a couple of strokes. I am making good progress, happily.


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    I STILL miss East Hill :) Rollfast's Avatar
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    Everybody always says search is broken anyway, probably no need.
    Quote Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
    They can't fix expansion joints, because they expand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    We aren't. As I said, they are the largest source of new registrations we've got.
    Are you sure you wouldn't get even more new registrations if you didn't subject new visitors to the unpleasantness of trying to read archive threads?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rollfast View Post
    Everybody always says search is broken anyway, probably no need.
    Very funny. But seriously, I use Google to search BikeForums. And so every time I click on a search result, I get sent to an archive result.
    "As Helmet Head suggested, [scuba] divers are much more serious about safety. They study on land before they even take their first dive, and most continue to study and learn throughout their diving careers. [...] As cyclists, we often learn everything we ever know in kindergarten, and we love to blame any mishap on cagers, poor road design or an autocentric society." --Roody.

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    I STILL miss East Hill :) Rollfast's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by robsonhill View Post
    Very funny. But seriously, I use Google to search BikeForums. And so every time I click on a search result, I get sent to an archive result.
    And if I didn't have those when I registered in 2007, how would I have gotten up to speed?

    This site has been through many format and platform changes in it's history and why would we want to discard our own history and breadth of knowledge?

    Likewise...What is GOOGLE for then, pray tell?

    PS They OWN us, I understand! That's who Internet Brands is.
    Quote Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
    They can't fix expansion joints, because they expand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rollfast View Post
    And if I didn't have those when I registered in 2007, how would I have gotten up to speed?
    Rollfast, even if you disable the feature, every thread will still be visible to Google users. Yes, every thread—even dating back to the beginning of BikeForums. They will simply appear in a nicer way, with more color and formatting.
    "As Helmet Head suggested, [scuba] divers are much more serious about safety. They study on land before they even take their first dive, and most continue to study and learn throughout their diving careers. [...] As cyclists, we often learn everything we ever know in kindergarten, and we love to blame any mishap on cagers, poor road design or an autocentric society." --Roody.

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    Hey guyz? Guyz? Wait up!! Siu Blue Wind's Avatar
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    Knowing the history of BF, not every thread (even dating back to the beginning) will be displayed.
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    We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.
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    Please dont outsmart the censor. That is a very expensive censor and every time one of you guys outsmart it it makes someone at the home office feel bad. We dont wanna do that. So dont cleverly disguise bad words.

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