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Old 01-06-07, 06:29 PM   #1
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busted lug/frame need advice

the pictures explain it pretty well. the downtube/headtube lugged cracked in half (im guessing weakened by corrosion) and the top tube bent. luckily i didnt get hurt.

i wanted to see what advice you guys had to offer on getting this repaired. im aware its probably not economically worth it to have this repaired, but the bike has sentimental value to me since it used to be my father's.

so is it even possible to have this repaired, and if so what would be a reasonable estimate for having someone replace the lug and top tube?

im not sure of the tubeset and the bike is about 30 years old and spent ten of those in a shed, so there could be corrosion issues on other parts of it too.

please tell me it can be saved!
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Old 01-06-07, 07:36 PM   #2
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I hate to break the news to you, but the frame is shot.

Maybe you could "save" it by hanging it on the wall in the den.
You might be able to straighten it a little, for a cosmetically better look.

I don't see a decal on the frame. What brand bike was it? Did your Dad have that bike custom built?

What did you hit at the moment the frame failed?

If you could get this bike repaired, it would need a new top tube,a new down tube, and new lugs. It wouldn't be the same bike when you got it back. Then you would have to paint it.

If I was saving it, I would hang it on the wall, facing right so visitors can see the historic chainring and deraileurs.

Bike frames are generally only waranteed for 5000 miles, so you got your moneys worth out of it.
(It's rare to see them fail though.)
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quote:"Bike frames are generally only waranteed for 5000 miles, so you got your moneys worth out of it."

What type of frame does this apply to?
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its a takara, and the tube sticker said "takara special alloy" (whatever that means) before i painted it.

i didnt hit anything, i was just starting up from a stop, ad jsut started to raise up out of the saddle, the lug let go and then my pedal dropped to the pavement and ground to a stop.

i had seen the begging of the crack around the lug, but just thought it was flacking paint, didn't realize it was the metal.

every thing besides the top tube should be staright, i geuss itll be destined for the wall, im just not ready to admit it to myself yet.
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quote:"Bike frames are generally only waranteed for 5000 miles, so you got your moneys worth out of it."

What type of frame does this apply to?
This applies to all bicycle frames, I found that out while working in a bicycle shop.

Also, if you read the fine print of the warantee, on the back of the owner's manual,
it will say "warantee void if ...used for racing..."
Did you know that bicycle racing is any speed above twenty five miles per hour (25MPH) ?

So the bicycle companies really got their arses covered.

It may say "1 year warantee" but that translates to 5000 miles, on average. The shop mechanic can tell by tire wear, there's no Odometer.
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This applies to all bicycle frames, I found that out while working in a bicycle shop.

Also, if you read the fine print of the warantee, on the back of the owner's manual,
it will say "warantee void if ...used for racing..."
Did you know that bicycle racing is any speed above twenty five miles per hour (25MPH) ?

So the bicycle companies really got their arses covered.

It may say "1 year warantee" but that translates to 5000 miles, on average. The shop mechanic can tell by tire wear, there's no Odometer.
Reminds me of what Mary McCarthy said about Lillian Hellman: "every word she writes is a lie, including 'and' and 'the'."
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It's hard to tell from the pictures, but it doesn't look that bad to me. I've seen worse. Just about any framebuilder should be able to do the tube and lug replacements, given that they are a standard size. It appears that the seatlug could be saved by brazing on a point. It should run about $400-$450 with a repaint.
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