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Old 03-12-07, 12:50 PM   #1
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first frame project help. (velonomad you out there??)

good afternoon eveyone.

Im usually hangin out on the Clyde and commuter forums but Ive got an itch to build me a frame.

Id be looking to build a commute /tour style bike. strong and steady

My commute rig at the moment is a Surly XC That I built up 2 years ago. its a good ride but not quite Right for me with the 700 c wheels and my roman legion type physique

I have fairley short legs 30" / longer torso . im 5' 10" 247 lb.

Im thinking I would like to do a slope tube compact style frame for 650 c with discs perhaps, if not discs Ill use the new long reach double pivot side pulls.

anyway I think it would be a hoot to get a frame just the way I want it.

Brazing /soldering/tig work I can do as well as anyone(did lots in my past employment) . I can get my hands on a Good industrial tig machine if need be as well as a good oxy /acc set up.. also have a big machine shop at my disposal here at work.


Im really at a loss On the design stuff Though IE: mitering the tubes, geometry, layout ...


Reading older Posts Velonomad lives right near me in NY , 20mins. I work with someone who may know him I would love to pick his brain if he'll let me (Please)

So where to start.

1) best way to figure the geometry I need ? would like a real comfy, relaxed ,very steady beast.

with my height /inseam I would like to use 650s or would 26 be better?? my cross check size is a 50.

2) steel for sure , lugged or fillet frame??

3) miter info for tubes (no clue where to start here) patterns avail?? I have plenty of tools.


well this is a start any help will be most welcome.

happy luggin!

"John"

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Old 03-12-07, 06:05 PM   #2
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good afternoon eveyone.

Im usually hangin out on the Clyde and commuter forums but Ive got an itch to build me a frame.

Id be looking to build a commute /tour style bike. strong and steady

My commute rig at the moment is a Surly XC That I built up 2 years ago. its a good ride but not quite Right for me with the 700 c wheels and my roman legion type physique

I have fairley short legs 30" / longer torso . im 5' 10" 247 lb.

Im thinking I would like to do a slope tube compact style frame for 650 c with discs perhaps, if not discs Ill use the new long reach double pivot side pulls.

anyway I think it would be a hoot to get a frame just the way I want it.

Brazing /soldering/tig work I can do as well as anyone(did lots in my past employment) . I can get my hands on a Good industrial tig machine if need be as well as a good oxy /acc set up.. also have a big machine shop at my disposal here at work.


Im really at a loss On the design stuff Though IE: mitering the tubes, geometry, layout ...


Reading older Posts Velonomad lives right near me in NY , 20mins. I work with someone who may know him I would love to pick his brain if he'll let me (Please)

So where to start.

1) best way to figure the geometry I need ? would like a real comfy, relaxed ,very steady beast.

with my height /inseam I would like to use 650s or would 26 be better?? my cross check size is a 50.

2) steel for sure , lugged or fillet frame??

3) miter info for tubes (no clue where to start here) patterns avail?? I have plenty of tools.


well this is a start any help will be most welcome.

happy luggin!

"John"
Well..........
1) Aside from asking someone to give you their version of what would be best (not always a bad option) you really need to experiment a little: ride a bunch of bikes, pay close attention to how they feel, and of course research what's already out there.
2) Alignment is a bit easier to maintain on you first frame if you go with lugs, otherwise, if you can already braze/weld, is more a matter of what look you want.
3)http://www.ozhpv.org.au/shed/tubemiter.htm this site has an simple program that will print out a pattern for anything you'll need to cope, except for the seatstays.
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