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Old 07-21-07, 08:47 PM   #1
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Is there a good DIY frame building jig?

Was looking around for a good "do it yourself" frame building jig... do you all have any suggestions on a good one, preferably inexpensive.
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Was looking around for a good "do it yourself" frame building jig... do you all have any suggestions on a good one, preferably inexpensive.
You don't need one you just need to learn to measure straightness. A surface plate to index off of comes in pretty handy.
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Was looking around for a good "do it yourself" frame building jig... do you all have any suggestions on a good one, preferably inexpensive.
HERE's Marc Pfister's simple jig built from 80/20 T-slotted aluminum extrusions, and HERE's one built of 3/4" plywood.
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Old tombstone or some other surface plate. V Blocks from Manhattan Supply along with shim stock. Weight on top of the tubes holds them down, blocks free to float. Can use over a full size drawing, although putting down bluing and scribing works better. Then a square lets you figure position on the tubes. For lugs or lugless, tack and flip over usually works pretty well.
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Hmm, all good stuff.

If I were to go the flat plate route, would not that pose a problem of getting the braise all the way around the tubing and lug? I thought the jig held the tubes in proper position so you can get to both sides to braise?

I was thinking the plate steel base and strong magnets on v blocks. Maybe making a v block that has adj height.



edit- just read mandovoodoo, i got it flip it... didn't know if it would be safe to move not finished off
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Look for the book the paterek manual, shows how to build simple jigs.
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Oh man that book is perfect, I need a copy... but first need some money, 85.00

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Rent the film. Look on the other frame site. Compositepro has a new design he published plans for, and it's pretty cool.

One thing you want to do is match your building style to the jig, or even non-jig you are going to want. Look at the Paternek stuff for the brazing, lugs, and have a look at Anvil as an ideal for TIG. You need to get and idea for the whole process.
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Rent the film. Look on the other frame site. Compositepro has a new design he published plans for, and it's pretty cool.

One thing you want to do is match your building style to the jig, or even non-jig you are going to want. Look at the Paternek stuff for the brazing, lugs, and have a look at Anvil as an ideal for TIG. You need to get and idea for the whole process.


Which film?

i have been reading a lot about the brazing, I am glad I did, didn't realize you needed to mind what filler you used in relation to the tube properties.. i.e. heat treated tube, and air hardend tubes.

also while looking around at lugs, i found a set that is microfusion... what is that mean... I am guessing another process besides lost wax casting? Is that good or should I stay away from them, cause I really like them. but they are 50+ a set...
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Which film?
I think he was referring to Tim Paterek's frame building DVDs.
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ah, my mistake... watched the clip, seems like a good idea.

has anyone rented it, would an online rental place have it? Or is someone willing to rent it to me... I could have it back in two days.

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