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    Is there a good DIY frame building jig?

    Was looking around for a good "do it yourself" frame building jig... do you all have any suggestions on a good one, preferably inexpensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SugarPILL View Post
    Was looking around for a good "do it yourself" frame building jig... do you all have any suggestions on a good one, preferably inexpensive.
    You don't need one you just need to learn to measure straightness. A surface plate to index off of comes in pretty handy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SugarPILL View Post
    Was looking around for a good "do it yourself" frame building jig... do you all have any suggestions on a good one, preferably inexpensive.
    HERE's Marc Pfister's simple jig built from 80/20 T-slotted aluminum extrusions, and HERE's one built of 3/4" plywood.
    - Stan

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    Old tombstone or some other surface plate. V Blocks from Manhattan Supply along with shim stock. Weight on top of the tubes holds them down, blocks free to float. Can use over a full size drawing, although putting down bluing and scribing works better. Then a square lets you figure position on the tubes. For lugs or lugless, tack and flip over usually works pretty well.

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    Hmm, all good stuff.

    If I were to go the flat plate route, would not that pose a problem of getting the braise all the way around the tubing and lug? I thought the jig held the tubes in proper position so you can get to both sides to braise?

    I was thinking the plate steel base and strong magnets on v blocks. Maybe making a v block that has adj height.



    edit- just read mandovoodoo, i got it flip it... didn't know if it would be safe to move not finished off

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    Look for the book the paterek manual, shows how to build simple jigs.

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    Oh man that book is perfect, I need a copy... but first need some money, 85.00

    anyone got a used copy to sell?

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    Rent the film. Look on the other frame site. Compositepro has a new design he published plans for, and it's pretty cool.

    One thing you want to do is match your building style to the jig, or even non-jig you are going to want. Look at the Paternek stuff for the brazing, lugs, and have a look at Anvil as an ideal for TIG. You need to get and idea for the whole process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterpan1 View Post
    Rent the film. Look on the other frame site. Compositepro has a new design he published plans for, and it's pretty cool.

    One thing you want to do is match your building style to the jig, or even non-jig you are going to want. Look at the Paternek stuff for the brazing, lugs, and have a look at Anvil as an ideal for TIG. You need to get and idea for the whole process.


    Which film?

    i have been reading a lot about the brazing, I am glad I did, didn't realize you needed to mind what filler you used in relation to the tube properties.. i.e. heat treated tube, and air hardend tubes.

    also while looking around at lugs, i found a set that is microfusion... what is that mean... I am guessing another process besides lost wax casting? Is that good or should I stay away from them, cause I really like them. but they are 50+ a set...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SugarPILL View Post
    Which film?
    I think he was referring to Tim Paterek's frame building DVDs.
    - Stan

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    ah, my mistake... watched the clip, seems like a good idea.

    has anyone rented it, would an online rental place have it? Or is someone willing to rent it to me... I could have it back in two days.

    I would trade my surfboard making and glassing vids.

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