I am looking for a frameset to build that would be compared to Rivendell Rambouillet, Mercian King Of Marcia or Waterford but on the cheap. Looking to spend less then 500.00. So any ideas on builders or older 1970 and 1980 frames. I have read that you can get the same ride as a Rivendell but in a older used Japanese bike. Requirements are... up to 700x35c tires, cantilever brakes if possible and more upright position for light touring to no loaded long rides. Would Tommaso Lugged be a good bike.