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    put my bike frame in the pizza oven

    at 440 degrees for an hour. trying to level out the steel by uniformly heating n cooling everything at the same temp. useless or great idea?

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    don't forget the garlic.

    that will help with the vampires, too.

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    good for powdercoating.....not hot enough to make any difference with the steel.

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    Bad idea. Shouldn't hurt anything structurally, but I think that if anything you will pull it out of alignment. Any time you want to mess with alignment you better have a means of measuring the results.

    You are also high enough to oxydize the whole surface which probably just means a little more prep time.

    You could powdercoat your own frame in there, I just wouldn't eat the pizza thereafter.

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    "level out the steel "

    Meaning what?

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    just lower the steel temps evenly. sorry. bad tech talker.

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    Electric ovens suck for making pizza so I'm glad you found a good use for them. Wood fired is the only way to go for pizza...imo.

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    My boss/CEO, a material scientist who used to run a frame building class at the university, did this with his home built frames. I think it had something to do with driving the hydrogen out of the steel, as to the specific purpose of this I am unclear (avoiding hydrogen embrittlement?)

    He loves to chat about this stuff so I'll ask him for details and report back...

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    Heat treating steel requires much higher temperatures, a little over double of what the pizza oven will do.

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    Are you trying to accomplish what a cryogenic type process would do? What you are asking sounds more like annealing to me. I don't think I would do it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by testtube View Post
    My boss/CEO, a material scientist who used to run a frame building class at the university, did this with his home built frames. I think it had something to do with driving the hydrogen out of the steel, as to the specific purpose of this I am unclear (avoiding hydrogen embrittlement?)

    He loves to chat about this stuff so I'll ask him for details and report back...
    Post bake of 375 F +- 25 F is required after chrome plating of steels at
    Rockwell C40 or above to reduce hydrogen embrittlement.
    See fed spec QQ-C-320

    I can't think of any other reason to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassave View Post
    Post bake of 375 F +- 25 F is required after chrome plating of steels at
    Rockwell C40 or above to reduce hydrogen embrittlement.
    See fed spec QQ-C-320

    I can't think of any other reason to do it.

    Does that reduce the hydrogen from the steel or chrome plating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffz View Post
    Does that reduce the hydrogen from the steel or chrome plating?
    I looked up Hydrogen Embrittlement

    The electroplating process can introduce Hydrogen ions into the steel through diffusion from the electroplating bath. The Hydrogen ions will eventually recombine to form the more stable diatomic Hydrogen creating pressure within the steel that may introduce cracking.

    The process described by Cassave is used to drive the Hydrogen out of the steel.

    I think this is why my boss pizza-ovened his frame as he had electroplated it (I think with Nickel) in leiu of painting it.

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    Heating to 440 can relieve stress in the frame, but it probably needs to be heated for more than an hour. If there is stress from welding/manufacturing, it could cause the frame to warp.

    Heating above 300 degrees is known as tempering, look it up on google, you'll find a lot of information.

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    hey if my mum was heating it up it would be ok

    she always burns pizzas

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