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Old 01-11-10, 03:39 PM   #1
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Talisman Metal Craft- Seattle Framebuilder (Need Info)

I built up a frame and fork that has Talisman decals on it. I have found limited information online regarding the builder Robb Collins. The most information came from S&S Machine but the owner their doesn't not recall anything. I also emailed Rodridguez in Seattle and no one remembers him.

S&S Machine- http://www.sandsmachine.com/bp_talsm.htm

previous BF thread- I emailed the poster but no reply.
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ed-Heard-of-it

The bike has a Henry James fork crown and Ritchey dropouts. Looking for any info.



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Old 04-07-11, 03:03 AM   #2
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I also own a Talisman (pictures if you want). Is there something you'd like to know about it? I know folks who know folks that know about the builder. I was a messenger in Seattle for a while and bought it at a "bike swap" there (about 8 years ago). The frame is holding up well, but the salt air of Oahu is beginning to corrode the paint job quite a bit.
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Nice looking bike, but the excessive amount (even for big tires) of crown clearance is throwing me off.
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Rob Collins was the builder of Talisman Metal Craft frames. The one I have was built when he was a frame builder for R and E Cycles in Seattle. There, his bikes were sold under the brand name of 'Rain City'. The Rain City bikes he built were a ticketed with Talisman decals on the seat tube.
The bike I have is in very good condition and I believe was built with Reynolds 753 tubing.
I've upgraded the components to Ultegra and a full carbon fork, and without pedals the bike comes in at under 19 lbs. where it lacks in bottom bracket stiffness (not the best sprinter) it makes up for in comfort and stability. Fantastic bike. Happy to provide Pictures upon request.
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Old 02-23-15, 05:59 PM   #5
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kinda funny Pete mentioned the clearance, that's all the rage right now.

Dosn't the 'R' in R+ E stand for Rodreguez?
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Yes, (Angel) Rodriguez and (Glenn) Erickson.

Custom bicycles and custom tandem bikes hand-built by Rodriguez and Erickson in Seattle

Great shop here in the University District in Seattle with a fun history. I recently took a quick tour of their framebuilding facility. Super folks.
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it's interesting that they didn't know Rob Collins then
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I remember knowing of Talisman and I know Rain City as an R&E line (as well as terrafirma or something similar) but, I hadn't heard Rob's name nor did I know Talisman and Rob were connected to Rain City or R&E. The current owner of R&E has been with R&E for a long time (since 80's maybe?) so, he probably knows something. There may be other newer folk there who don't know of Rob and his connection.

Erickson was what I lusted for back when I first became aware of custom handmade fancy bikes. Back then, i think in the early/mid 90's, one of his frames was in Bicycle Guide or some such and I drooled over it-no way I could afford one! I've since spent some time racing and working with his son and have done his annual Parkinson's charity ride a couple times. I've also paid off my student loans. I'm currently looking for one of his frames in my size. You know, just to check it out, see if it fits. Obviously, I don't need another bike, so, it'd just be to look at it. Hey, I can quit any time. I don't have a problem.
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That name kind of rings a bell. A friend and I met a fellow who's name happened to be Rob with his wife at barnes and nobles after a ride. He said used to build frames at for a time at Rodriguez. He still has his framebuilding equipment but lives in ashland oregon. I spoke with Mike DeSalvo one day I was hanging out at his shop and asked about him and he knew rob and backed up the info of working at Rodriguez and some framebuilding ventures afterwards. It's now a side hobby.
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I guess Its a steel CX frame , hence the Mud clearance .
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cx frame with road tires. Looks like a nice bike
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if the frame is "of a certain age" the fork may have been designed for use with 27" (630mm) rims.
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the difference is 4mm, not enough to matter
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Erickson was what I lusted for back when I first became aware of custom handmade fancy bikes. Back then, i think in the early/mid 90's, one of his frames was in Bicycle Guide or some such and I drooled over it-no way I could afford one! I've since spent some time racing and working with his son and have done his annual Parkinson's charity ride a couple times.
Bicycling Magazine did a nice article on Glenn in May 1994. I know this because I still have the article hanging on my fridge...he was working on my bike at the time. I just replaced that beauty about 3 weeks ago, but I will definitely bring it back out to ride in this year's "Pedalling for Parkinsons" ride. :-)
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Rob Collins was the builder of Talisman Metal Craft frames. The one I have was built when he was a frame builder for R and E Cycles in Seattle. There, his bikes were sold under the brand name of 'Rain City'. The Rain City bikes he built were a ticketed with Talisman decals on the seat tube.
Thanks for all the new information. I had not checked this thread in awhile. My bike has changed into my daily commuter with fenders and a handlebar bag. Most components have changed too. I totally agree about the flexy BB.

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Thanks for all the new information. I had not checked this thread in awhile. My bike has changed into my daily commuter with fenders and a handlebar bag. Most components have changed too. I totally agree about the flexy BB.

I owned a Talisman road bike in 1998. It had a sloping top tube, was made out of Podium XL tubing (I believe), which was superlight. It was a stunningly beautiful bike, including a sterling silver headbadge (or stainless steel). It was very flexy in the bottom bracket, but probably weight 17 lbs (darned light for a steel bike). On a whim, I entered the National Road Race championships in Tallahassee (I was there as a coach) and got second in the road race, beating former Olympians and World champions in the process. I was no slouch, having won nearly 70 Masters races in the Northwest. I sold the bike, because I was afraid I would break it, but again, a work of art.

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