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Old 01-27-10, 07:30 PM   #1
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Spotted on ebay - 531 tubing kits and lug sets

I'd be all over these if I thought I would be able to have time in the next couple of years to learn how use them!

Might be useful to you guys.

Campy lug set vertical dropouts on ebay

Campy lug set semi horizontal dropouts

531 sl tube set

531 tube set

All the same seller.
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I saw a report that Cino Cinelli had a set of the Campagnolo vertical drops on his desk. Now I do too.
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Bicycle Classics also has NOS 531 tubesets, as well as complete frame kits.
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bicycle classics includes an Italian bottom bracket. I don't think I'd go to the trouble of building a bike with one nowadays.
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bicycle classics includes an Italian bottom bracket. I don't think I'd go to the trouble of building a bike with one nowadays.
Actually, the description says "BSC". Where did you see that the BB was Italian?
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So that actually is a Campy drop... Looks kinda rough for their stuff (tools, parts)...
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Actually, the description says "BSC". Where did you see that the BB was Italian?
I stand corrected, maybe I was thinking of another company

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So that actually is a Campy drop... Looks kinda rough for their stuff (tools, parts)...
Yes, they were not highly thought of for that reason. If Campagnolo had made a nice forged vertical drop back then it might not have taken so long for vertical drops to take over.
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I stand corrected, maybe I was thinking of another company

Yes, they were not highly thought of for that reason. If Campagnolo had made a nice forged vertical drop back then it might not have taken so long for vertical drops to take over.
They did make a vertical dropout once upon a time
and if memory serves me correctly they were worse than the standard dropout
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one of the ebay auctions listed above has a '70s era Campagnolo vertical drop. It was just a stamped flat piece of steel -- really crude. Like I said above, if they had made a forged version, people might have taken them seriously.
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one of the ebay auctions listed above has a '70s era Campagnolo vertical drop. It was just a stamped flat piece of steel -- really crude. Like I said above, if they had made a forged version, people might have taken them seriously.
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yes, with a bike made with your lugs and dropouts
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Silverbraze...are you Llewelyn from Australia?

The auction ended, the 531 tubeset went for $177, when the same thing is available from Bicycle Classics is $150. Glad I didn't get caught up in that one. The accompanying lugset in the other auction looks nice, though...Prugnat SL, if I'm not mistaken?
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Silverbraze...are you Llewelyn from Australia?

The auction ended, the 531 tubeset went for $177, when the same thing is available from Bicycle Classics is $150. Glad I didn't get caught up in that one. The accompanying lugset in the other auction looks nice, though...Prugnat SL, if I'm not mistaken?
It's as nice as that old stamped and/or sand cast stuff gets...good for a "period correct" build/resto (or practice if that lugset is cheap enough), but not really worth the $ when you consider how much nicer the new stuff is.
That, and buying old parts does nothing to support our current suppliers.
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