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Old 04-03-10, 09:47 AM   #1
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Fillet Brazing Stainless Steel

I ordered a KVA stainless frame from a fairly well known builder who does NOT do lugged stainless. I wanted a non painted frame for ease of maintenance. I was floored when he sent some pictures last week - the frame is fillet brazed rather than Tig welded. I was under the assumption that you were not supposed to fillet braze Stainless. I am not at all happy with how it looks. His reply is that he finds it distorts the tubing less with brazing than with Tig welding. I never asked if it would be Tig welded I thought that was the only option if it was not lugged.

Opinions please, is this an acceptable joining method?

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Old 04-03-10, 12:59 PM   #2
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It's acceptable, as a matter of fact, using the new fillers like Fillet Pro has made fillet brazing the new stainless steels a very common practice. What is it you don't like about the fillets? The color?
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Old 04-03-10, 02:56 PM   #3
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Completely acceptable. Here's a Simoncini fillet brazed 953 frame.

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What is it you don't like about the fillets? The color?
I am not sure, it may just be the fact that I was expecting Tig and not prepared or a different color joint. I am going to wait until I receive it Thursday to decide if I want to paint it.

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I'm putting these questions on my order form:
Have you looked at my gallery? y/n
I only use lugs or fillet braze, does this meet your expectations? y/n
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Old 04-04-10, 10:17 AM   #6
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I hope the builder didn't spend too much time polishing if you end up painting it.
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Old 04-04-10, 10:26 AM   #7
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here are some pics of a SS fillet-brazed bike

http://www.clockworkbikes.com/track.html
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Old 04-04-10, 01:39 PM   #8
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I didn`t know that was possible either. I`ve seen some of the Fred Parr threads on FF, but mostly pass them by since I`m still trying to get my head around the "normal" way of doing things and don`t need any further complications.

FWIW, I`m surprised that both the builder and the customer went on the assumption that both were on the same page as far as joining method goes. You`d think that both parties would specify their intentions beforehand.
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Please check out this one.
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For my money, any builder who is willing to sell you an unpainted frame is probably a pretty good builder. Paint hides a lot: a builder willing to let you see his "naked" joinery is confident in his work.
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I'd say. Making a fillet look nice unpainted is a big step up in effort from what it takes to make a fillet look nice under paint.
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