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    What do I need to start?????

    I have been into bicycle for about two years I am also into drawing I have bearly start combining my two loves and designing frames. I would love to build couple but I do not know where to start..... i DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WELDING..

    PLEASE GUIDE ME THROUGH THE RIGHT PATH.....
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    designing and building your own frameset by richard p. talbot manet guild publishing

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    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=351632

    Here is a good list of questions with the answers provided. start here.

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    I'm just starting myself so I won't be much help but I have a few things to say.

    A brazing class would be the place to start, I highly recommend it. However, that's not an option for me right now so I'm doing it all myself.

    I have the Talbot manual mentioned above and it is really great but the one thing I feel I really need is to watch or have somebody show me how to properly heat up a joint and pull the filler. I've watched a ton of videos online but nothing has really showed me this in a helpful manner. FYI, don't watch the youtube videos "Bicycle Frame Building" by mchimonas unless you're looking for a "what not to do" video.

    Another issue I'm having is that I'm using low fuming bronze for practice and my first frame and nearly everything I find is for silver. Oh well back out to the shop for more practice / trial and error.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Rings6Stars View Post
    Another issue I'm having is that I'm using low fuming bronze for practice and my first frame and nearly everything I find is for silver. Oh well back out to the shop for more practice / trial and error.
    are you using lugs?

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    Sleeves of straight gauge 4130 fit over slightly smaller diameter tubing.
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    Thank you for the advice on the youtube videos.

    Maybe I should start reading about it. On the bookl titles they gave me. Thank you.
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    I haven't read this book, but if it was between this and talbot I think this sounds good enough to be the better bet, though I am not really in favour of doing lugs with anything other than an oxy fuel torch. i tried a lot of alternatives when I started out...

    However what I would read is Paterek. All you need is in the online version: http://www.timpaterek.com/paterek.pdf

    And another way to avoid paying Tim his well deserved earnings is to rent the videos at smartflix, though you should probably compare that. Smartflix is a good service, but it doesn't pay off if there are a lot of discs in a set. I did end up with an official set of the video myself.

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    It sounds good I tried opening the link but is blank.
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