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    Is my frame seriously damaged?

    Hi, I shipped a bike and had it put together by a bike shop prior to my arrival. There's a good-sized dent and some fine lines - cracks? - in the top tube.

    According to the bike shop owner - after I pointed out the dent to him - damage must have occurred in transit. It looks like the top tube was crushed by a clamp to me, though, and there's no other damage on the bike. Whatever happened has me concerned.

    I'm attaching a couple of photos. The dark area in the first picture is actually the reflection of the camera lens in the dent, which gave me a good way to show the shape and size of the dent on a polished aluminum tube. The second photo shows the lines that formed above the dent.

    You can also see the way the reflective straight lines along the top tube bend around the dent, which probably is about 1/8 inch deep. And you can see the general shape of the dent below the lines.

    The bike shop owner said this damage was cosmetic only. Is that true, or could this be a death blow to my frame? I'm assuming there's no way to repair or mitigate this damage.




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    AFAIK, there is no clamp in a bike shop that would make that sort of dent. Probably shipping damage. It's really hard to say about crack indications on aluminum. Those probably are mostly cosmetic, but they also could be the start of a crack. I would ride and monitor the area, it's not going to fail catastrophically unless you ignore it until a large crack forms.

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    I have seen thousands of aluminum tubes and have never seen one with a story like that. I agree with Unterhausen, that is not likely going to cause a catastrophic failure. The damage makes the tube look like an extruded part. That would be odd. What frame is this?
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    Ft welder wrote:

    "The damage makes the tube look like an extruded part. That would be odd."

    I don't know what that means.

    "What frame is this?"

    It's a 2009 Specialized frame (Langster model),

    OK - I'm feeling better, thanks form the answers! The bike now just exhibits a little more character.
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    as far as fixing the dent, I read a long post from somebody who had a dented tube. They covered one end with a band aid, filled the dented tube with water, covered the other end, the froze it outside in the winter. Repeated a few times and each time the dent popped out a little more.

    This was on a steal frame though, so I'm not sure how aluminum would react.

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    Is that a bare aluminum frame?

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    looks like a good location to try frame blocks;
    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-Roll-in-Dents

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    Sorry, extrusion is a process for forming aluminum. Like play doh "fun factory". Normally bike tubes are drawn over a mandrel after extrusion to remove flaws. It looks a bit like they used an extruded tube that was surface ground to remove visible flaws and not structural flaws.

    That is why it cracked length-wise I suspect. Very unusual but I didn't know anyone was doing that type of stuff.

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