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Old 01-12-13, 09:48 PM   #1
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Ballpark cost for minor(ish) frame repair...

Hello Everyone,

I just acquired a pretty nifty vintage frame with a fastback seat lug which has been sorely beat up over the years, and I'm just curious as to what the going (ballpark) rate is for a seat lug replacement?
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Old 01-12-13, 10:09 PM   #2
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Big question with little detail. Only the Bb shell is more involved. Why the need to replace the lug and not the tubes? (Loaded question there, think about your answer). Andy.
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In answer to your "loaded" question: 'why' is irrelevant to the answer. The original question was about the general cost of such work, not the reason for it.
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Do you need the entire seat lug replaced or just the seat post binder? Pictures?
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The reason i ask why is to try to more completely understand what is broken or damaged and what is not. If the binder bolt barrel is damaged it might be able to be replaced/repaired without dealing with the rest of the lug. If the lug is cracked then there's a real chance the underlying tube is also. So the "why" is not to question your motives but to try to guide you better. I called this question "loaded" because of the answer will have a lot of bearing as to what cost or possibilities might exist.

So to back up. Why do you ask this? Is the lug cracked? The binder stretched so it bottoms out without holding the post? Is there a nonstructual reason? Are you concerned about the tubes' conditions or the stays' top cap style?

There are more questions that I could ask but i hope you get the idea that being one of the more complex junctions of a frame the answer (and cost) is also complex. As rellis asked, any photos would help us understand the construction style as well as a possible crack/failure reason. Sometimes fixing the problem is more involved then replacing the broken part. If i wanted to flame you it would have been far more aggressive than my reply was. Andy.
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actually replacing the entire seat lug is probably a $1000 repair after paint

Maybe you could post pics to show us what needs to be done
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Old 01-14-13, 09:03 AM   #7
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As others have stated, it might be easier to guide you if we had pics. On the other hand if all you want is a cost, see any or all of the frame builders here in town. There are probably 30-40 "pro" builders here, and maybe just as many of us hobbiest types.
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Ballpark cost for minor(ish) frame repair...

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Hello Everyone,

I just acquired a pretty nifty vintage frame with a fastback seat lug which has been sorely beat up over the years, and I'm just curious as to what the going (ballpark) rate is for a seat lug replacement?
OP: Really have to agree with others; Get a couple of pictures posted and then someone might be able to give you a rough wag of the cost. A real estimate would require getting all the paint off the joint and a close hands on inspection. I really have a basic dislike for seat lugs in general...for me they have been more of a PITA that even bottom brackets (others view the BB as the tough one and I can't really disagree with them). And repairing either is, well basically a lot harder than the original building). I make it a point to tell owners to always keep a seat post in their frame as the best insurance against damage in storage, when handling or when shipping.

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It's dependant on the shop overhead of the place you hire, the work you want, done.

Switzerland or Singapore , etc.. I note, you are in bike shop saturated PDX

Sasha White will charge more because of his prestige framebuilder status..
if he will even bother.. I think he has a waiting list for new stuff..

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There used to be a time when there was a shoe repair person in every neighbourhood... I'm interested in making bikes, and I guess I would be interested in fixing them but it is the easiest part of my liability to drop by the wayside. I can't know what I am working on as a starting point, under that paint, etc... I can expect anyone who's head ends up north of a pothole to look to me for their lifetime medical and lost income expenses. Meanwhile, the famous guys are too busy.

I'm sure there are a lot of guys who do this kind of stuff, and there may be a huge conversion from fixing beaters to ordering custom bikes, it has to start somewhere. But I would need to see some real numbers.
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Sounds like you need to call around, be specific.. ask by the Job..
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