I stopped by my regular welding supply shop last week to pick up and oz of silver and a can of bronze flux- they used to stock both, but not any more. Went by another on my way home and they couldn`t help me either. So, this morning I broke out the phone book and called all five shops in my area with no luck. It looks like I`ll have to order online. And even THAT doesn`t give many options. I see a few places that sell Safteysilv 45, but Google won`t show me anybody selling Allstate/Esap 1113 flux. Is Allstate gone like a Twinkie? Have the rest of you been losing your local purchase options? Do you usually order online anyway? Why so few online vendors of brazing products?