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Old 12-24-13, 12:20 AM   #1
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Titanium Road Bike Builder Recommendations?

Hello,

I am looking to engage a custom builder to build a custom titanium road bike for me. And, based on my research, the following seem to stand out: Ericksen Cycles, Mosaic Cycles, Strong Frames, and Kish Fabrication. I hear these small shop builders do an amazing job welding titanium. If you have specific feedback on any of these builders, or recommendations of other builders, please let me know. And if there is an existing thread on this topic, kindly point me in the right direction. Thanks!
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Old 12-24-13, 12:33 AM   #2
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And http://moots.com/.. http://www.vannicholas.com/

I cannot afford any of them , myself..

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http://fireflybicycles.com/bikes/road-titanium
http://www.engincycles.com/
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Strong, Firefly, and Engin would be my suggestions as well.
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Thanks for all your responses. Would love to hear why you are recommending the builders above? (personal experience with these builders or you had friends who've had good experiences having these builders build bikes for them?) Thanks.
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Scott Quiring built a very nice Ti bike for me. On budget, on time and excellent workmanship. http://www.quiringcycles.net/

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it is probably a glib way to look at it, but when I see the work of the better TI welders, it is never in doubt. Everything is pretty much on display, you can't goof it and then cover it up as one can with some of the more traditional methods. In addition, the work requires a more methodical approach because the fits have to be perfect, and the jigging is usually pretty good as it makes some sense to go whole hog that route if you have to have backpurging gear anyway. The whole package tends to be pretty controlled, right up to the point the torch arcs off. Then you have the mastery on display.

So, my feeling is that the product is usually pretty easy to assess. You then run into all the normal issues about what kind of bike you need built, how they feel about that kind of job, and any special needs you have.
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http://www.velocipedesalon.com/forum...9-a-35572.html

The picfest at this place usually features some pretty nice Ti work.
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Thanks for the feedback. So it sounds like choosing, amongst these good builders, the one that can work best with me to build the frame I want is the way to go.

I am not looking for anything too unique or fancy in terms of artistic custom work, all i'm really looking for is for someone to build me a frame to fit me well, to fit my riding style, and that will work for my local terrain. I am curious whether the ability (of the builder) to get the right fit and geometry for the customer is what differentiates these different builders (who are more or less equally competent in assembling and welding the frame), or is knowledge about getting to the right fit and geometry fairly well known amongst builders (i.e. does not differentiate the different builders). I don't know anything about frame building, and am hoping to understand what are the factors that determines a good builder so i can go look for those factors when selecting the builder. Or is this really a matter of picking someone "i like" and "get along with"?

Thanks again.

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it is probably a glib way to look at it, but when I see the work of the better TI welders, it is never in doubt. Everything is pretty much on display, you can't goof it and then cover it up as one can with some of the more traditional methods. In addition, the work requires a more methodical approach because the fits have to be perfect, and the jigging is usually pretty good as it makes some sense to go whole hog that route if you have to have backpurging gear anyway. The whole package tends to be pretty controlled, right up to the point the torch arcs off. Then you have the mastery on display.

So, my feeling is that the product is usually pretty easy to assess. You then run into all the normal issues about what kind of bike you need built, how they feel about that kind of job, and any special needs you have.
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