Toe overlap and front-center? 58cm f-c?
I think Patarek says 58cm avoids most problems, but it isn't clear if that means 700x23 with 170mm cranks. Would a 165mm crank mean that it only needs to be 575mm? What does mostly mean for someone with say, a size 44 shoe? Is it gone or just minimized?
As a short rider with an even shorter inseam I'm finding many new bikes don't seem to have enough front-center for me, especially when I gravitate towards the XS for the low stack height so I can get at least a little saddle to bar drop (short inseam = lower saddle = little saddle to bar drop). I'm not interested in test riding bikes to intentional toe rub and risk faceplanting and buying a bike that will give me problems. I know some people like to just use 73/73 for everything but that leaves me with either my toes rubbing my tires or lots of reach, as much as a L size bike due to the shortened head tube.
I am a slow rider when I get tired, and I spend a considerable amount of time riding at under 10mph and doing tight turns for toe overlap to be important to me. Sometimes I have to zig-zag and I usually can't stop pedaling to turn. Rarely I have to get off the bike and take a breather. The following starts are especially wobbly. My transitions to standing can also get a little wobbly.
Most of the advice on front center seems to be tall people telling short people to deal with it, buy special frames, wheels and tires, or short people that go in straight lines faster than 10mph not having a problem or expert strong climbers who don't get slowed down by hills at all.