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Old 04-22-05, 07:44 AM   #1
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Not secure: replacement Kryptonite U-locks

Hello,

I received this month 2 replacement Kryptolock U-locks type s0028177074 out of China.
Altough this good service, they were BOTH not save.
Two replacement locks and a 100% hit is a bad quality statistic.
Be aware and control your replacement Kryptolock!

The turning bolt that prevents the U-turn to get out of the other straight part does not close correctly.
Instead 40 % the bolt covered 10 % of the gap (*), so with force you should pull out the bad barred U-turn.

You can control this unsecurity only at sight by closing the bolt not using the U-turn.
I can insert both different (!) keys in each others lockopening for 80% of depth and also turn it a little the right way to open, so you can force the bolt another further way to open (*).
Perhaps it is even possible to force the lock in this way, putting in a strong pin turning is around forcefully to demolish the lock. Bad idea?

Who can advise me about these security features? From Kryptonite I get only the correct message over the warrenty, but nothing about this unsecure lock features.

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Old 04-22-05, 07:47 AM   #2
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Where's that bunny with the pancake on his head?

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Old 04-22-05, 09:17 AM   #3
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Can anyone tell me what languge this post is attempting to use?
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Old 04-22-05, 09:22 AM   #4
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Old 04-22-05, 09:30 AM   #5
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Because you just joined the Forum today, you may not understand why folks are joking about your English...it is the traditional Forum "welcome" for new members. Many of the posts in the Forum are from people in Japan, Germany, Italy...and their English is far better than my Japanese, German, or Italian. Heck, their English is better than most folks in East Texas.

I have five or six of the "new" Kryptonite locks. They use a flat key that is very similar to that used on the OnGuard U-locks. Both the Kryptonite and OnGuard designs require that both ends of the "U" be firmly seated into the crossbar before turning the key. After both ends are fully seated, the key turns easily.

However, if either end of the "U" is NOT fully seated, the key resists turning. Because the flat keys are rather thin, someone trying to "force" the key to turn could break the key.

If the key resists turning, "rap" the round end of the "U" with your hand to seat the "U" in the crossbar. Likewise, don't let anything push on the "U" bar when you are unlocking it, such as pressure from the pole you are locked to.

I use only one lock on a daily basis, and as that lock has been locked and unlocked many times, it has loosened up and bit, and works more smoothly than it did on "Day One".

The OnGuard Brute and Kryptonite New York locks have earned the highest ratings from the UK "Sold Secure" Institute, and the ART Foundation in Holland. They are the best U-locks widely available in the USA. Their design eliminates the "slop" and "freeplay" that is common in "Brand X" U-locks, but the "price" of a tight fitting lock is that a bit of extra care is required when locking and unlocking.

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Old 04-22-05, 09:48 AM   #6
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Thanks glock.

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Old 04-22-05, 04:27 PM   #7
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if you speek a foreign language just go to babelfish and plug your message into it.
Try an English > German > English translation. It will be a few pancakes on the bunny's head.
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Old 04-22-05, 05:49 PM   #8
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that's some good stuff, MERTON.
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Old 04-22-05, 05:57 PM   #9
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In the interest of clarity, I've run the original post through multibabel - which translates english>french>english>german>english>italian>english>portugese>english>spanish>english.

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Hello, I received the types that this u-I s0028177074 connects the
monthly compartment of Kryptolock of reinstallazione 2 of China.
Altough this good work, was they who AMBO the decree protects the ends
of the work. Two switches of the emergency of reinstallazione and a
100%, that one are fixed, are statistical false of the quality. The
appointment of the impulses of conteggio and the controls his
reinstallazione of Kryptolock! The screw of the screw of the updated
restoration, that one that comes up, updated restoration not to go
away to the other joust of the section is closed correctly. In the
place of of considered 40 % the screw of screw 10 % of the thrown one
(*), therefore of the resistance that arrested they seriously deduce
it in give return if-him. They can control this unsecurity only
alla.vista, not closing itself to be used of the screw of the screw,
in if-give return. I can use diverse key two in each one the diverse
one (), those, lockopening for 80% of the depth and also to give him
returned can the good opened method, therefore same force I of the
screws of the screw a other a other method he, to open (*). the
uniform possible to possibly force in the switch of the emergency in
this type and a regulated hinge, the one that is that, the restoration
updated hard with resistance will not demolish in winch must of the
switch of the emergency. False idea? Who can inform to these
approximately preventive measures? Of Kryptonite it not only takes
with the correct excess of the message warrenty, but nothing for the
ways they them units these unsecure that interrupts it of the
emergency.
Better?
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Old 04-22-05, 06:25 PM   #11
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Absolute genius. From now on I will run EVERY email I send through multibabel.
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Old 04-23-05, 04:06 PM   #12
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Hello,

Kryptonite reacted to me and they are open to solve the problem.
They offer to replace again the 2 locks by their actual biggest type, with a better lock.
This action establishes again their good service.

I hope they will also appraoch the other clients with the same type of U-locks about the problem.

James.

Oh ja als die taalwijsneuzen hieronder dit kunnen lezen dan zijn ze mischien wel wat slimmer dan ze schijnen te zijn. Alleen jammer dat ze niks anders te doen hebben, dan hun eigendunk oppoetsen.
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I would guess that the original poster is Dutch.
I'm not sure. Isn't that last sentence in Muppet?
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<snip> Oh ja als die taalwijsneuzen hieronder dit kunnen lezen dan zijn ze mischien wel wat slimmer dan ze schijnen te zijn. Alleen jammer dat ze niks anders te doen hebben, dan hun eigendunk oppoetsen.
via babelfish:

Oh yes as those language wise noses below this can read then to be them mischien, however, what more malignant than them to seem be. Only jammer that them has differently nothing to do, then their eigendunk polishes
good times.

Goed geluk met alles in uw leven, bruloo!
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Old 04-23-05, 05:52 PM   #16
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I'm not sure... but I think I've just been accused of being more malignant than I seem. Which, if so, that's the first time anyone I've not been dating has made such an accusation... It must be getting more obvious.

All language jokes aside: the info in the original post IS useful - thanks! I'll check my locks just as soon as I'm done polishing my eigendunk.
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Old 04-24-05, 09:32 AM   #17
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don't trust this babelfish translation
traue nicht babelfish
pas confiance babelfish
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Old 04-24-05, 10:24 AM   #18
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don't trust this babelfish translation
traue nicht babelfish
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Old 04-24-05, 03:54 PM   #19
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Where's that bunny with the pancake on his head?

Enjoy
I was just thinking the same thing when I read this, or the other one...'you are being flamed because', but the bunny is a kinder gentler message...
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That series of posts was HILARIOUS! Almost peed myself!
(And I thought this forum was only about dry bike subjects. Silly me!)
And how appropriate to mention babelfish with "Hitchhikers Guide..." hitting the screens.

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Old 05-29-05, 03:14 AM   #21
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Hello,

I received last week the two replacement Kryptonloc U-locks for the 2 replacement locks for the 2 old locks ..... . They are mechanically better secured then the previous ones.

Without any obligation Kryptonite send me also two new brackets, because the new locks did not fit in the old brackets.

Excellent Service, despite my old locks were about 14 years old !

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