Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > General Cycling Discussion
Reload this Page >

Helmet vs bar end mirror

Search
Notices
General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

Helmet vs bar end mirror

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-26-15, 02:22 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: The Villages, FL
Posts: 14

Bikes: 2007 Jamis Aurora

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Helmet vs bar end mirror

Which do you prefer and why? I haven't gotten one yet and am wondering which is best. Thanks
Chacam is offline  
Old 06-26-15, 02:24 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 4,770
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 630 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 369 Times in 206 Posts
Helmet because you can watch out for the illuminati when you are in the coffee shop line.
Elvo is offline  
Old 06-26-15, 03:26 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,388
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 176 Post(s)
Liked 25 Times in 13 Posts
Originally Posted by Chacam
Which do you prefer and why? I haven't gotten one yet and am wondering which is best. Thanks
Chacam I want to tell you that those are two different animals and you should have at least one of each,,,,,,,
Fastfingaz is offline  
Old 06-26-15, 03:35 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
jbarham's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 218
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I've never tried a bar end mirror but have been using a helmet mirror for 7 or 8 years. I'm a big fan. Fortunately, I've never used the built-in eye remover.
jbarham is offline  
Old 06-26-15, 03:37 PM
  #5  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: SoCal
Posts: 23

Bikes: Trek FX 7.4

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I went for bar end. I ride a motorcycle and that's what my motorcycle has so I'm used to it. I also swapped the brakes to Euro-style so it's like my motorcycle too.
DeltaFoxtrtZulu is offline  
Old 06-26-15, 04:32 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Fort Worth TX
Posts: 139

Bikes: Trek Madone4.5, Fuji Newest, DaVinci Joint Venture, Pacific Dually, Kuota K Factor Thruster

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I've used both helmet and bar end mirrors. I like the bar end better because of the larger view and the helmet mount isn't as clear with my particular vision issues. I do like the ability of the helmet mirror to capture a larger picture by turning my head. I would suggest you try both and see which you like best. Or buy one and when you break it, try the other type.
jhazel is offline  
Old 06-26-15, 05:29 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Central Louisiana
Posts: 3,055
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 41 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times in 3 Posts
I have a Third-Eye bar end mirror on both of my road bikes.
doctor j is offline  
Old 06-26-15, 05:41 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posts: 4,811
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1591 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1,018 Times in 571 Posts
I like the bar end myself. I just didn't find the helmet mirror very useful. You have to have your head in the right position to get the view you want. And I don't really like the look.
jon c. is offline  
Old 06-26-15, 05:44 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
bgraham111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Farmington Hills, Mi
Posts: 297

Bikes: 1996 Specialized Hardrock Sport FS, 2011 Fuji Newest 1.0, 2015 GRC-Single Gecko, 2016 Waterford RS-22

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 24 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I hated my helmet mirror when I first put it on. But using it has become second nature. I used a different helmet the other night without the mirror and I went crazy trying to look behind me with just a little head tilt. Mine is set up so all I have to do it look slightly to the left to see behind me.

I have a bar end for a home brew recumbent, but I haven't installed it yet. So.... I don't know which is better. But the helmet mirror was cheap - just give it a try.
bgraham111 is offline  
Old 06-26-15, 06:08 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
Cougrrcj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 3,478

Bikes: A few...

Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 620 Post(s)
Liked 371 Times in 257 Posts
Both of my road bikes have Bar-end shifters, so no bar-end mirrors for me. Back in the days when bike helmets were not common and I used to wear prescription glasses, I had a glasses-mount mirror, not a helmet mount. I almost always have some sort of eye protection when riding for bugs/dust/etc, but the frames are not the same between my 'regular' safety glasses and the sunglasses, so I don't have a mirror at all. However, since I always wear a helmet now, I may get a helmet-mount mirror. Over the last 30 years, I have mainly listened for traffic.
Cougrrcj is offline  
Old 06-26-15, 06:46 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
GovernorSilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Washington DC Metro Area
Posts: 1,218

Bikes: Breezer Uptown 8, Jamis Renegade Expert

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
For more opinions, check out this recent thread:
https://www.bikeforums.net/advocacy-s...rror-poll.html
GovernorSilver is offline  
Old 06-26-15, 06:52 PM
  #12  
rebmeM roineS
 
JanMM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Metro Indy, IN
Posts: 16,216

Bikes: Bacchetta Giro A20, RANS V-Rex, RANS Screamer

Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 653 Post(s)
Liked 347 Times in 226 Posts
Have used helmet- or glasses-mounted mirrors for about 35 years. Current fave - for several years - is the Take-A-Look mirror.
__________________
Bacchetta Giro A20, RANS V-Rex, RANS Screamer
JanMM is offline  
Old 06-26-15, 07:49 PM
  #13  
Full Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Flat Rock, NC
Posts: 468
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 113 Post(s)
Liked 46 Times in 32 Posts
I've used a Third Eye Helmet mirror for 20+ years. Before that I used a mirror that clamped over the brake lever hoods (no longer available or compatible). I find that the helmet mirror vibrates less and allows for a wider field of vision simply by rotating my head. Bar end mirrors (or shifters) always got in my way getting on and off the bike and forced me to look down away from the road to see where I'd been or what was going to run over me.
coupster is offline  
Old 06-26-15, 07:49 PM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
CliffordK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Eugene, Oregon, USA
Posts: 27,547
Mentioned: 217 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18371 Post(s)
Liked 4,507 Times in 3,350 Posts
I tried a bar mounted mirror... for about 10 minutes.
I know, perhaps not long enough for a good evaluation. But, with drop bars, I am leaning forward quite a bit, and the bar mirrors are just in the wrong place. I'm better off just looking behind me.

I've been meaning to try helmet or glasses mount mirrors, but haven't done it yet.
CliffordK is offline  
Old 06-27-15, 06:04 AM
  #15  
Mike
 
Coop500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Acme, PA
Posts: 249

Bikes: 1994 Specialized Rockhopper FS, 2002 DK Fury24

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I use a bar mounted mirror. I have been riding motorcycles for 35 years and I am just used to a bar mounted mirror I guess.
Coop500 is offline  
Old 06-27-15, 07:04 AM
  #16  
aka Phil Jungels
 
Wanderer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: North Aurora, IL
Posts: 8,234

Bikes: 08 Specialized Crosstrail Sport, 05 Sirrus Comp

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 202 Post(s)
Liked 86 Times in 60 Posts
Mountain Myrricle, the best there is! You can actually see things with it! Bar end for me, MHO
Wanderer is offline  
Old 06-27-15, 07:59 AM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
gear64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: STL Missouri
Posts: 473

Bikes: State Black Label All Road, Univega Gran Premio, Lotus Classique, Terranaut Metro

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 105 Post(s)
Liked 94 Times in 62 Posts
When i first started commuting I put a bar end style on a flat bar bike. It worked very nice. When I switched to drop bar bike, it was lesser of evils between look and position of where it would go on bike vs look of having it on helmet. I picked helmet. Bonus in hindsight is that now I also have a mirror for stripped down "fun" bike which also spends a lot of time in the streets. Initial drawbacks: 1) Took a little fiddling to get the setup just right 2) Maybe just coincidental, but developed a little kink in my neck about the same time. Eventually went away in fairly short order. 3) I had difficulty locking in the view at first. Now it's second nature. For me the trick seemed to be lock onto mirror, very slight turn turn to the left. Initially I think I was trying to lock in during head turn while turning way too far (looked like I was seeing the world from a merry-go-round). Habit from always looking full over shoulder for many years. Which you should still do as final check before an actual maneuver.
gear64 is offline  
Old 06-27-15, 08:01 AM
  #18  
Been Around Awhile
 
I-Like-To-Bike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Burlington Iowa
Posts: 29,969

Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 1,532 Times in 1,043 Posts
Originally Posted by Elvo
Helmet because you can watch out for the illuminati when you are in the coffee shop line.
You wear your helmet with a mirror while inside a public establishment? Kewl!
I-Like-To-Bike is offline  
Old 06-27-15, 08:24 AM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
79pmooney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 12,902

Bikes: (2) ti TiCycles, 2007 w/ triple and 2011 fixed, 1979 Peter Mooney, ~1983 Trek 420 now fixed and ~1973 Raleigh Carlton Competition gravel grinder

Mentioned: 129 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4802 Post(s)
Liked 3,922 Times in 2,551 Posts
Never had any desire to use a bar mirror. That and doesn't it break when the bike falls over (with or without rider)? Also I don't put anything on a bike that makes it wider except panniers when I need them, especially on the handlebars.

Helmet mirrors work really well. Better than the mirrors in my car. I use the Cat Eyes with the screw clamp and a bracket I made that screws onto the visor. (It's BS that I have to make those brackets; helmet and mirror manufacturers should get together on a standard. The brackets I make outlast several helmets and provide a very solid mount while making removal easy.) I also get glasses and sunglasses with frames with a high squarish outside corner so the mirror is completely in the field of my glasses and not in my direct vision at all. The Cat Eyes are large and sit close to you eyes so the field of view is large and effective.
79pmooney is offline  
Old 06-27-15, 02:03 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
NJgreyhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: South Jersey near PHL
Posts: 593

Bikes: Frequently

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 158 Post(s)
Liked 251 Times in 131 Posts
One of the reasons I like the helmet mirror is it is you can still "watch your six" if you are off the bike and walking it along the shoulder (e.g. with a mechanical problem).

I've used different ones. My favorite is the Hubbub. It is a bit less obtrusive, does not use a long arm (which may increase vibration), sits close so the field of view is pretty big, and it is easy to move from one helmet to another, as it does not use a mount glued to the helmet.

Edit: for non-helmeted, local rides, I have shooter's glasses for both sunny and cloudy days (which I use for riding at night), to which I've added little self-stick mirrors on swivels placed on the inside of the lenses.

Ride safe.

Last edited by NJgreyhead; 06-27-15 at 02:43 PM.
NJgreyhead is offline  
Old 06-27-15, 02:16 PM
  #21  
Señor Member
 
Wilfred Laurier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 5,066
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 649 Post(s)
Liked 292 Times in 215 Posts
I don't always wear a helmet so I prefer bar-mounted mirrors.
Actually I prefer no mirror, but if I have to choose a mirror mounting system, it goes on the bar.
Wilfred Laurier is offline  
Old 06-27-15, 02:21 PM
  #22  
Galveston County Texas
 
10 Wheels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In The Wind
Posts: 33,221

Bikes: 02 GTO, 2011 Magnum

Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1350 Post(s)
Liked 1,243 Times in 621 Posts
Originally Posted by Wilfred Laurier
I don't always wear a helmet so I prefer bar-mounted mirrors.
Actually I prefer no mirror, but if I have to choose a mirror mounting system, it goes on the bar.
Put one on your gloves.

__________________
Fred "The Real Fred"

10 Wheels is offline  
Old 06-27-15, 08:21 PM
  #23  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 239

Bikes: Yuba Mundo 4.3, 2007 Jake the Snake

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by gear64
I picked helmet... Maybe just coincidental, but developed a little kink in my neck about the same time. Eventually went away in fairly short order.
I use a helmet mirror and this was actually an issue before I moved from riding the drops on my cross bike to sitting fully upright on my cargo. I think it has to do with having to lift your head up to get a good view, though I suppose you could adjust the mirror so that you could view it in the drops, but not when you're more upright. Typically, on the drops your head is down and you're looking up with your eyes to view the road; this doesn't work as well with a helmet mirror, as your shoulder is in the way. You either have to adjust the mirror so that you can only view behind you by looking left, or you lift your head, giving you a kink in your neck if you do it too often.

This is just my experience. Maybe I didn't dial in the mirror optimally for my cross bike. The kink did appear about a week after I put the mirror back on my helmet, and only ended when I got my new bike.
bovine is offline  
Old 06-28-15, 04:25 PM
  #24  
Senior Member
 
jwse30's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: NW Indiana
Posts: 57

Bikes: Schwinn Collegiate 3 speed, Trek 1400

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I wear one that clips to my eyeglasses since I don't wear a helmet all the time. I think it was made by Third Eye. The way the handlebars are shaped on my bike, I didn't think a bar end mirror would work too well.

J White
jwse30 is offline  
Old 06-28-15, 05:47 PM
  #25  
Senior Member
 
BobbyG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 5,972

Bikes: 2015 Charge Plug, 2007 Dahon Boardwalk, 1997 Nishiki Blazer, 1984 Nishiki International, 2006 Felt F65, 1989 Dahon Getaway V

Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1364 Post(s)
Liked 1,677 Times in 827 Posts
I use both. My glasses mounted mirror works better for me, but the bar end mirror will sometimes alert me to something and then I will take a look with my helmet mirror.
BobbyG is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.