scott449

So I ride a lot and when I do my PSA levels increase. This is common as a normal seat puts tons of pressure on your junk. So anyway I want to try a new seat. Have any of you used a nose-less seat?
The look dumb as hell but if they work and are comfortable I am willing to make the change.

jfowler85

Did you have your PSA levels drawn after a ride? The literature indicates varied experimental results, so any discomfort you're experiencing may not be prostatic in nature.

https://www.nature.com/pcan/journal/v...an201516a.html

Yendor72

I have both an ISM Adamo Attack and Typhoon. If you are uncomfortable and having pain don't think twice about what the peanut gallery has to say about your saddle. Go try a few out, your LBS may have loaners for you to try. If you are worried about the look of a nose less saddle then don't be surprised if your bird no longer works.

And yes, I am tired of "bike fitters" telling me how my body feels on a saddle and that their bike fit would fix it. "If it doesn't fix it and I have pain after 10 minutes of riding can I pop you in the pills because you lied to me? Didn't think so."

Doc V

You should look at the Kontact saddle (Home - Kontact Bike). I moved to this when I was having pressure problems. It's shape places your weight on your sit bones where it belongs. They have a 30 day return policy so you can try it. The first few rides your sit bones may be sore as they adjust to the new position.

Oldbmxguy

I have a cover with gel pads in it.. Yeah it doesn't look as cool, but it works for me.
I really adjusted on seat angle first, and it helped, but the cover is the ticket for me.

delcrossv

No "little willie" worries for me-body weight is on my back, not my perineum.

Yendor72

Oh, no doubt a bent would be good, I had a tadpole trike before and loved it. However I didn't feel I would be comfortable in large groups with it, such as on a tour or other group events. That and all the hills I recently climbed were the 2 major issues I had with it (besides my feet going numb).

scott449

Thanks having no discomfort just raised PSA levels

scott449

This study is interesting but i can tell you that for me it is not correct. i have been going back and forth with my Dr for about a year now. change nothing and take a test PSA >7, stop riding for 2 weeks take same test PSA <4. i have repeated this process roughly 5 times over the last year. I understand that Correlation does not imply causation, but my next indicated step is to get a new seat. if a new seat saves me the joy of a Dr. finger up my ass then its well worth it.

scott449

anyone have any experence with this one? or other ones of this type? Noseless bicycle seats, hornless bicycle seats. Prevent impotence, prostate problems and urological issues for both male and female riders. - Spongy Wonder Noseless Bicycle Seats

Little Darwin

A short internet search showed several medical article summaries that explained that there was a small rise in PSA for long bicycle rides (I know one was based on 250 miles in a few days) but that it was statistically irrelevant.

While I don't have the subscription(s) needed to read the complete studies, I think it is rash to assume that increased PSA levels are due to the saddle... although that could be the factor, it just wasn't obvious in the abstracts I read.

Also worth noting, increased PSA levels are only relevant because for those with high levels already, it could elevate past the threshold that indicates potential prostate cancer... The raised level doesn't increase risk (based on my understanding) it just may cause a blood test to be flagged to cause your physician to check further.

RonH

When I saw my urologist a few weeks ago he mentioned that my PSA level was up slightly. He asked me a few questions and then I mentioned that I was a cyclist. He said that probably explained it and told that the next time I come in for a PSA test to "not ride" for 2 days before the test.
The saddle type doesn't matter. Its the fact that you're putting a lot of pressure on that area for an "extended period".

Little Darwin

I haven't tried that specific saddle, but of the few cheaper noseless saddles I have tried, I have not found one that I find comfortable.
I am currently riding a Selle SMP TRK saddle (not noseless) that works well for me as far as pressure on the tender bits... To get it to fit right, I have to angle it forward a bit, but at that point it gets very comfortable.

scott449

I think saddle does matter, if you can keep all or most of you weight in your ischial tuberosity and not on your junk then logically that has to help.

cyclebee

I have used a moonsaddle for years and it is awesome!

fietsbob

saw/met a rider long ago, they didn't so much sit on top of their noseless saddle as lean back against it

while they functionally stood on alternating pedals.

Imabmwnut

I have a Nexride noseless saddle. I can sit on that thing all day. Had mine covered in leather for 20$.

jfowler85

By all means, get that new saddle.

rydabent

No matter what seat, and or special "fitting", a DF bike seat is not reallly user friendly to the never never land of a persons body. I am another person that gave up on DF bikes. I now have a bent and a trike, and never would go back to a DF bike.

cyclebee

Was looking at the nextride, it seemed very interesting

cvskates

This is the best advice in this thread this far, IMO.

A noseless saddle fixed a problem i was having with my tri-bike. I took advantage of my LBS' rental program and saved a lot of money on fancy saddles that wouldn't have remedied my issue.

Nermal

I do understand about correlation and causation, but after that many indications I'm inclined to call it 'first person research'.

OldTryGuy

Saddle comfort depends on riding style. As mentioned, experimentation with various saddles is the way to attack the issue.

first person research, most definitely! +1

Solution for my issues was a prostate cancer diagnoses, bilateral orchiectomy, some ADT after procedure and PSA = 0!!! So does my T, testosterone, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

energyandair

What is your current seat like (shape, padding, flexing etc), what angle is it set up at, what's your typical riding position and how is your weight distributed on the bike (seat, pedals, hands)?

chandltp

I had a tadpole as well. I had issue with really painful toe numbness, and not feeling comfortable being so low in groups (that, and not seeing over the side of bridges)

I now have a Bacchetta Giro 20. Toes rarely go numb now, and if they do I just have to pull on the pedals for a minute or so. And I feel no different riding with other cyclists than I did on an upright (after about 500 miles, that is).

I spent about 8 hours test riding recumbents before I found the right one though. I almost went home without one until I saw mine in the used bike section.

So I guess what I'm saying is.. don't rule out recumbents based on a bad experience with a tadpole.