Help! I'm sick of flats! FOR REAL.
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Help! I'm sick of flats! FOR REAL.
I know I need to switch tires. How do I know? Because I was rolling with the Vittoria Rubino Pro Slicks on my Allez before I sold it. I got a flat on day one after installing the tires. It was a piece of a shell or rock or something and I thought it was a coincidence. Turns out it was an omen for the relationship I would have with these tires. I won't get into all the frustrating details, but let's say I had around 5-10 flats on those tires before I pulled them off. I'll be generous and say it was around 1000 miles.
Fast forward to this week. New Felt F3. Guess what tires came on it? (yep, the Rubino Pro Slicks!)
Thought I would give them another chance because I honestly like the way they roll, their light weight, and the grip (except in rain on white road paint). Well, under 100 miles on them and two flats! I'm done with these.
What tires do I need?
Riding style is 100-150 miles a week. Solo, T-Shirt rides, and group rides.
Texas chip seal/ill repair highways.
Fast forward to this week. New Felt F3. Guess what tires came on it? (yep, the Rubino Pro Slicks!)
Thought I would give them another chance because I honestly like the way they roll, their light weight, and the grip (except in rain on white road paint). Well, under 100 miles on them and two flats! I'm done with these.
What tires do I need?
Riding style is 100-150 miles a week. Solo, T-Shirt rides, and group rides.
Texas chip seal/ill repair highways.
#2
Life is good
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Not far from the Withlacoochee Trail. 🚴🏻
Posts: 18,209
Bikes: 2018 Lynskey Helix Pro
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 522 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times
in
10 Posts
If you read thru Bike Forums you'll find that most folks, including me, love Continental Grand Prix 4000s. I haven't had flat in almost 3 years.
__________________
The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love. - Psalm 103:8
I am a cyclist. I am not the fastest or the fittest. But I will get to where I'm going with a smile on my face.
The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love. - Psalm 103:8
I am a cyclist. I am not the fastest or the fittest. But I will get to where I'm going with a smile on my face.
#3
Senior Member
Thread Starter
#5
Life is good
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Not far from the Withlacoochee Trail. 🚴🏻
Posts: 18,209
Bikes: 2018 Lynskey Helix Pro
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 522 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times
in
10 Posts
I've been riding on them since 2007/8? and am very please with them. Got a cut in a sidewall once but I was riding thru a bad" part of Atlanta with lots of glass and metal debris in the roadway.
__________________
The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love. - Psalm 103:8
I am a cyclist. I am not the fastest or the fittest. But I will get to where I'm going with a smile on my face.
The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love. - Psalm 103:8
I am a cyclist. I am not the fastest or the fittest. But I will get to where I'm going with a smile on my face.
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Portland, ME
Posts: 1,620
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Conti 4000S have my vote too. Once my Mavic Yksion tires wear out, I know what I'll be putting on next.
BTW, Continental's mountain tires are great too. And I've never ridden them, but there's plenty of talk about the GatorSkins.
BTW, Continental's mountain tires are great too. And I've never ridden them, but there's plenty of talk about the GatorSkins.
#7
Banned
the features added to the tread to reduce flats add weight and decrease ride supple ness . thats just how it is.
#8
FLIR Kitten to 0.05C
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
Posts: 5,331
Bikes: Roadie: Seven Axiom Race Ti w/Chorus 11s. CX/Adventure: Carver Gravel Grinder w/ Di2
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2349 Post(s)
Liked 406 Times
in
254 Posts
OP are these puncture or pinch flats?
If they are puncture flats...do you live in goathead country?
If they are puncture flats...do you live in goathead country?
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 8,951
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times
in
12 Posts
Flat rate is highly variable. I haven't had a flat in the past 3k miles, but there have been times when I got 3 flats in one week. It's the nature of randomness.
#11
Senior Member
My #1 tip for avoiding flats: look ahead as you ride. Your bike will follow your eyes. If you have your head down and only are looking a couple feet ahead, it's too late to miss running things over.
#2 tip: be sure to get whatever caused the flat out of your tire before you put a new tube in.
#3 tip: never use a lever to install a tire. If the tire is too tight, switch tire brands or work on your technique/hand strength.
#4 is a PIA and I don't do it often enough: after a ride, check your tires for new cuts. If the cut looks big or has a space, let the air out of the tire and check for a little piece of glass stuck inside. I've found lots of little pieces of glass stuck in cuts being patient and working their way to the tube.
#2 tip: be sure to get whatever caused the flat out of your tire before you put a new tube in.
#3 tip: never use a lever to install a tire. If the tire is too tight, switch tire brands or work on your technique/hand strength.
#4 is a PIA and I don't do it often enough: after a ride, check your tires for new cuts. If the cut looks big or has a space, let the air out of the tire and check for a little piece of glass stuck inside. I've found lots of little pieces of glass stuck in cuts being patient and working their way to the tube.
#12
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Thanks all. They're all puncture flats. I had one pinch flat, but it was substantial enough that I knew exactly when it happened and don't really count that against the tires.
I try to ride with my head in the game to avoid running over glass and debris when possible...
I haven't popped the tire off today to check for thorns or glass, but I will for sure. Flat before last (Wednesday) there actually was a thorn still stuck in the tire, I was very glad I checked for that!
Probably the most frustrating part is that my best riding buddy does the exact same trails/roads as me and I can remember ONE flat he had. LAST OCTOBER. Haha. (His tires are on my list to check out- Schwalbe Durano S)
I try to ride with my head in the game to avoid running over glass and debris when possible...
I haven't popped the tire off today to check for thorns or glass, but I will for sure. Flat before last (Wednesday) there actually was a thorn still stuck in the tire, I was very glad I checked for that!
Probably the most frustrating part is that my best riding buddy does the exact same trails/roads as me and I can remember ONE flat he had. LAST OCTOBER. Haha. (His tires are on my list to check out- Schwalbe Durano S)
#13
Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Sauk Rapids, MN
Posts: 30
Bikes: Giant Iguana, Raleigh Technium, Schwin Supersport, Specialized Rockhopper Pro, Specialized Diverge
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I've had good results with Continental Gatorskins. As in I've never had a flat and I'm on my second set after wearing out the first set. They probably aren't the fastest tire, but I'm not the lightest person either. I switched to them after getting to many flats. Flats suck!
Mark
Mark
#14
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 220
Bikes: e-bike and a steel framed roadie
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
In five years of daily commuting on US30 in NW Portland, aka 'the dirty 30', i had not had a flat on Specialized Armadillos. This is especially noteworthy as it is a high freight volume corridor with bike lanes that collect huge amounts of detritus from the trash and recycling trucks. They are not the fastest tire by a stretch. I probably would not put a set on my roadie. But they earn high marks for an urban bike.
#15
Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Lexington, KY.
Posts: 43
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I used to get them all the time and I run Continental Krylon tires. But I installed tire liners and it helped unbelievably.
#16
Senior Member
Rider weight, rim width, tire size used and psi? Run bigger tires?
#17
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 4,347
Bikes: Felt TK2, Felt Z5
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 943 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 20 Times
in
20 Posts
Gatorskins are not flat proof. Flats are bound to happen, be it a failed tube, road debris, improper pressure or whatever. I run Gatorskins on my bike and yep, I have had flats. One was a big piece of glass and the other a piece of what looked like a bent coat hanger. Stuff happens. It is all luck of the draw as to what is out there on the road.
#18
Old Fart
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Bumpkinsville
Posts: 3,348
Bikes: '97 Klein Quantum '16 Gravity Knockout
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 163 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
2 Posts
I haven't had a flat since switching to Gatorskins a few years ago. Life is good when you don't have to deal with flats.
#19
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: SoCal
Posts: 139
Bikes: Litespeed Classic, Surly Disc Trucker, Santa Cruz Blur
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Yup. I put on a new set of Gatorskins, and on the first ride, got a staple through the center of the rear tire - a weird kind of "snakebite"!
I haven't had any flats since then, and overall I'm pleased with them, but any tire can get a flat.
I haven't had any flats since then, and overall I'm pleased with them, but any tire can get a flat.
#20
Non omnino gravis
I ride in what I believe to be the broken beer bottle capital of the world-- not to mention bullthorns (goatheads) growing right out in the cracks in the roadway. Flats became such an issue I now ride on Thickslick Elites, probably the heaviest tire you can buy in a 700x28. But they are as close as you can get to flatproof without riding on solid rubber hoops. More comfortable than Armadillos, even. Cheaper, too. If you can't get away from flatting, or you ride on roads as bad as the ones I frequent, a dedicated "urban" tire might be the way to go.
#21
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Northeastern MA, USA
Posts: 1,678
Bikes: Garmin/Tacx Bike Smart
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 646 Post(s)
Liked 289 Times
in
191 Posts
If you want a tough tire that rides pretty nice and rolls OK, look at the Conti GP 4Season. I've never flatted one of them. I put them on at the beginning of October and ride them through April. Excellent tires. For the summer riding I ride GP 4000s. And no flats this year!
The other tough tire that rolls nice is the Michelin Pro4 Endurance. Michelin updated it recently and it rolls nicely, in addition to being tough. Worth a look.
The other tough tire that rolls nice is the Michelin Pro4 Endurance. Michelin updated it recently and it rolls nicely, in addition to being tough. Worth a look.
#23
Administrator
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Delaware shore
Posts: 13,558
Bikes: Cervelo C5, Guru Photon, Waterford, Specialized CX
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1106 Post(s)
Liked 2,173 Times
in
1,464 Posts
My #1 tip for avoiding flats: look ahead as you ride. Your bike will follow your eyes. If you have your head down and only are looking a couple feet ahead, it's too late to miss running things over.
#2 tip: be sure to get whatever caused the flat out of your tire before you put a new tube in.
#3 tip: never use a lever to install a tire. If the tire is too tight, switch tire brands or work on your technique/hand strength.
#4 is a PIA and I don't do it often enough: after a ride, check your tires for new cuts. If the cut looks big or has a space, let the air out of the tire and check for a little piece of glass stuck inside. I've found lots of little pieces of glass stuck in cuts being patient and working their way to the tube.
#2 tip: be sure to get whatever caused the flat out of your tire before you put a new tube in.
#3 tip: never use a lever to install a tire. If the tire is too tight, switch tire brands or work on your technique/hand strength.
#4 is a PIA and I don't do it often enough: after a ride, check your tires for new cuts. If the cut looks big or has a space, let the air out of the tire and check for a little piece of glass stuck inside. I've found lots of little pieces of glass stuck in cuts being patient and working their way to the tube.
#24
Senior Member
My #1 tip for avoiding flats: look ahead as you ride. Your bike will follow your eyes. If you have your head down and only are looking a couple feet ahead, it's too late to miss running things over.
#2 tip: be sure to get whatever caused the flat out of your tire before you put a new tube in.
#3 tip: never use a lever to install a tire. If the tire is too tight, switch tire brands or work on your technique/hand strength.
#4 is a PIA and I don't do it often enough: after a ride, check your tires for new cuts. If the cut looks big or has a space, let the air out of the tire and check for a little piece of glass stuck inside. I've found lots of little pieces of glass stuck in cuts being patient and working their way to the tube.
#2 tip: be sure to get whatever caused the flat out of your tire before you put a new tube in.
#3 tip: never use a lever to install a tire. If the tire is too tight, switch tire brands or work on your technique/hand strength.
#4 is a PIA and I don't do it often enough: after a ride, check your tires for new cuts. If the cut looks big or has a space, let the air out of the tire and check for a little piece of glass stuck inside. I've found lots of little pieces of glass stuck in cuts being patient and working their way to the tube.
1) Stay out of the shoulder. Ditto bike lanes. They should be renamed, "debris lanes."
#25
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Thanks all for the replies. Will definitely ride out of the shoulder when I have the courage here in Plano/Dallas.
I found a crazy good deal on some Scwalbe Durano 25c's. I'll definitely try the Conti tires next.
I found a crazy good deal on some Scwalbe Durano 25c's. I'll definitely try the Conti tires next.