Steel Frame manufacturers (not "custom")?
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Steel Frame manufacturers (not "custom")?
Unwiling to spend the money needed to buy a custom steel frameset, I'm wondering what companies out there make nice steel frames these days--preferably luggged, but not necessarily. Locally (Vancouver, BC) a shop sells Soma and Surly frames, but I'm interested in looking around more.
Any suggestions on what options are out there? I've found great resources on custom frame builders, but I'm looking for frames (hopefully, if possible) in the sub-1,000 dollar range.
If it matters: I'm looking for something with fairly compact geometry. THe Soma "Smoothie" seems very nice, but it's not lugged. (Though a guy road by today on one that was very pretty..)
A non-carbon fork would also be nice.
Any suggestions on what options are out there? I've found great resources on custom frame builders, but I'm looking for frames (hopefully, if possible) in the sub-1,000 dollar range.
If it matters: I'm looking for something with fairly compact geometry. THe Soma "Smoothie" seems very nice, but it's not lugged. (Though a guy road by today on one that was very pretty..)
A non-carbon fork would also be nice.
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Soma and Surly are ****. That's why they are on sale every year, that's just another Giant bike.
If you are not too worried about the paint you can get a frame for under $1000.
Right here, Curtlo at $990.
Curtlo Cycles - Pricing
If you are not too worried about the paint you can get a frame for under $1000.
Right here, Curtlo at $990.
Curtlo Cycles - Pricing
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Soma and Surly are ****. That's why they are on sale every year, that's just another Giant bike.
If you are not too worried about the paint you can get a frame for under $1000.
Right here, Curtlo at $990.
Curtlo Cycles - Pricing
If you are not too worried about the paint you can get a frame for under $1000.
Right here, Curtlo at $990.
Curtlo Cycles - Pricing
Regarding Curtlo: two things appeal: one, they are in Winthrop and Mazama is a favourite place. Two, they ahve the colour "baby poop brown," a colour I know well.
Do they have a good rep?
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Curtlo is a custom maker, which you said you didn't want.
For non custom frames, including steel, Ti, aluminum and carbon, look at Adrenaline Bikes
Adrenaline Bikes
The Breezer Venturi frame in there is steel at $599.
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Yeah. They are so bad countless people buy them and ride the hell out of them every year.
There are these:
Custom Bicycle Frames from Gunnar Cycles USA
The Rodie frame is $900.
There are these:
Custom Bicycle Frames from Gunnar Cycles USA
The Rodie frame is $900.
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Ya, those SOMA and Surly frames... what a load of crap poster Frank C has told you.
So. CA is full of granola...
So. CA is full of granola...
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Rivendell has a pretty lugged frame for $1300. If tigged is ok, Gunnars are very nice and you can pick your color. Lots of vintage stuff from early 90s will take modern components.
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lugged frames are more expensive, and for whatever reason the mass manufacturers don't want to go upscale. Probably because then they'd be competing with bikes they would have more trouble competing with. I have an All City, it's not a bad bike
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Soma makes excellent frames, particularly for the money. I doubt if you will find a lugged steel frame for less money. Some other budget brands to consider include All City, Salsa.
Gunnar makes great frames and forks, but will end up costing you about twice as much as a Soma, Salsa or Surley. However, the Gunnar would be made from higher quality steel and allow you to choose your color and decals.
Not many manufacturers are making lugged frames any more, except for a few Soma models, unless you are willing to pay up for something like a De Rosa Primato or a custom frame. You also could consider buying used or NOS from eBay if wanting a lugged frame. I bought a beautiful NOS lugged steel De Bernardi with lots of chrome from an eBay seller for a fraction of the cost of new custom.
Back to Soma. I am really impressed with their lineup and they've been adding some nice new models, like the Wolverine. I have a Soma Saga, and it is an excellent bike in every respect. Geometry fits me perfect, finish is top notch and it rides great. My LBS was so impressed by my Saga that they decided to start carrying Soma frames after they built mine up.
Gunnar makes great frames and forks, but will end up costing you about twice as much as a Soma, Salsa or Surley. However, the Gunnar would be made from higher quality steel and allow you to choose your color and decals.
Not many manufacturers are making lugged frames any more, except for a few Soma models, unless you are willing to pay up for something like a De Rosa Primato or a custom frame. You also could consider buying used or NOS from eBay if wanting a lugged frame. I bought a beautiful NOS lugged steel De Bernardi with lots of chrome from an eBay seller for a fraction of the cost of new custom.
Back to Soma. I am really impressed with their lineup and they've been adding some nice new models, like the Wolverine. I have a Soma Saga, and it is an excellent bike in every respect. Geometry fits me perfect, finish is top notch and it rides great. My LBS was so impressed by my Saga that they decided to start carrying Soma frames after they built mine up.
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Maxway TW is the Taiwan contract company many brands get to make what steel frames , they Import.
they likely produce the brands others speak of .. Your US Brand importers warehouse and distribute.
"Makes" , in order to apply has to physically be made by an employee of the company.
QBP and Merry/Soma are importing distributors ..
making Batches of lugged frames is a different production tooling ..
I visited the NL Gazelle Pro bike division in the late 80's ,
they had a Torch array fixture that heated all the lugs at once.
they likely produce the brands others speak of .. Your US Brand importers warehouse and distribute.
"Makes" , in order to apply has to physically be made by an employee of the company.
QBP and Merry/Soma are importing distributors ..
making Batches of lugged frames is a different production tooling ..
I visited the NL Gazelle Pro bike division in the late 80's ,
they had a Torch array fixture that heated all the lugs at once.
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Thanks for the suggestions.
As for looking around for used/NOS frames, I've been doing so but have come up short, hence the desire to find a new one. I do worry about getting an older frame and having to bend out the rear stays/etc. to accommodate a 10/11 speed cassette, but it seems that people do that all the time with no worries.
I never imagined a custom frame could be had for 1000 dollars, so that's a possible route....
Thanks all.
As for looking around for used/NOS frames, I've been doing so but have come up short, hence the desire to find a new one. I do worry about getting an older frame and having to bend out the rear stays/etc. to accommodate a 10/11 speed cassette, but it seems that people do that all the time with no worries.
I never imagined a custom frame could be had for 1000 dollars, so that's a possible route....
Thanks all.
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Check out Milwaukee
https://www.benscycle.com/c-110-milw...[GridView]
Frames are made by Waterford. Unfortunately, not lugged, but if you want that detail you probably have to go custom, or at least be willing to shell out some cash
https://www.benscycle.com/c-110-milw...[GridView]
Frames are made by Waterford. Unfortunately, not lugged, but if you want that detail you probably have to go custom, or at least be willing to shell out some cash
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A few steel options:
Kona Kapu: KONA BIKES | 2015 BIKES | ROAD: CLASSIC | KAPU
All City Mr. Pink: Mr Pink | All-City Cycles
Jamis Quest: QUEST
Charge Plug 5: Charge Plug 5 Road Bike -- 2015
Ritchey Road Logic - has to be built and these places will build you one and ship it to you:
Ritchey Road Logic 2.0 Frameset - Framesets - Excel Sports
https://www.adrenalinebikes.com/stor...oductid=132634
www
Then there are the heavier Salsa, Surly bikes out there as well.
If you are looking for an inexpensive titanium bike, its good to keep an eye out here as well:
https://www.lynskeyperformance.com/store/loft.html
Also Adrenaline Bikes will build you up any steel or titanium frame you want and ship it to you:
https://www.adrenalinebikes.com
Looks like the Kona Kapu is no more for 2016.
It appears it has been replaced by a disc brake versus called the Roadhouse:
KONA BIKES | 2016 BIKES | STEEL ROAD | Roadhouse
Kona Kapu: KONA BIKES | 2015 BIKES | ROAD: CLASSIC | KAPU
All City Mr. Pink: Mr Pink | All-City Cycles
Jamis Quest: QUEST
Charge Plug 5: Charge Plug 5 Road Bike -- 2015
Ritchey Road Logic - has to be built and these places will build you one and ship it to you:
Ritchey Road Logic 2.0 Frameset - Framesets - Excel Sports
https://www.adrenalinebikes.com/stor...oductid=132634
www
Then there are the heavier Salsa, Surly bikes out there as well.
If you are looking for an inexpensive titanium bike, its good to keep an eye out here as well:
https://www.lynskeyperformance.com/store/loft.html
Also Adrenaline Bikes will build you up any steel or titanium frame you want and ship it to you:
https://www.adrenalinebikes.com
Looks like the Kona Kapu is no more for 2016.
It appears it has been replaced by a disc brake versus called the Roadhouse:
KONA BIKES | 2016 BIKES | STEEL ROAD | Roadhouse
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You can check out the Pake C'Mute which is usually less expensive than Surly or Salsa. I know Marinoni used to make custom steel frames for $500...
EDIT: Oh cool. I just googled Pake C'Mute and saw it's possibly discontinued. And I can't find the message again on the Marinoni web site saying you can order a custom frame (you may have to email). But, I can say you can find some unique frames at Velo Orange.
EDIT: Oh cool. I just googled Pake C'Mute and saw it's possibly discontinued. And I can't find the message again on the Marinoni web site saying you can order a custom frame (you may have to email). But, I can say you can find some unique frames at Velo Orange.
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Old "ten speeds" with five cogs on the rear were typically spaced at 120 mm. Those may not be the best candidates to bend (cold set) to 130 mm.
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Really? Seems odd since I find decent old bikes at least once every few months that are priced so low they're hard to pass up. And I live in the boondocks where decent used road bikes are few and far between. Some of them are cosmetically challenged, but even with the cost of a repaint or powder coat, they're still a lot cheaper than a new frame. And hey, you get a whole bike's worth of parts, too!
Thanks for the tip about rear hub spacing.
I have some fun internet browsing to do, so thanks for the suggestions....
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You'll generally find more old steel-framed bikes from private parties than from shops, and without the retailer's markup. Check sources like craigslist and kijiji.
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Thanks for the suggestions.
As for looking around for used/NOS frames, I've been doing so but have come up short, hence the desire to find a new one. I do worry about getting an older frame and having to bend out the rear stays/etc. to accommodate a 10/11 speed cassette, but it seems that people do that all the time with no worries.
I never imagined a custom frame could be had for 1000 dollars, so that's a possible route....
Thanks all.
As for looking around for used/NOS frames, I've been doing so but have come up short, hence the desire to find a new one. I do worry about getting an older frame and having to bend out the rear stays/etc. to accommodate a 10/11 speed cassette, but it seems that people do that all the time with no worries.
I never imagined a custom frame could be had for 1000 dollars, so that's a possible route....
Thanks all.
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Torelli, DeRosa, Colnago, and other Italian makers. You could also just search through here: Bicycle and Frame Manufacturers
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+1 on Marinoni
The lugged frames are rather pricey, but very pretty (not as pricey as the Italian frames at Adrenaline, though). I have also heard good things about their piuma and primo frames, but they are tig welded and have carbon forks.
The lugged frames are rather pricey, but very pretty (not as pricey as the Italian frames at Adrenaline, though). I have also heard good things about their piuma and primo frames, but they are tig welded and have carbon forks.