El Gato27

My old ride is a mid-80’s Peugeot 12 spd road bike. Love it, have easily ridden over 10k miles on it, pretty sure much more.

About 6 months ago I bought a new Scattante R670 at a great price at my local Performance shop. Complete spur of the moment thing, went in to buy a new frame pump (Yes, I realize I am the only person on this forum that has ever done that).

So I’ve been alternating riding both for the last few months and have come to realize I enjoy my old Peugeot over my new Scattante. Scattante rides great, was fitted, has nice components, nothing wrong with it just not as enjoyable. Actually faster on it. Don’t really want to sell it, but…

Has anyone been in a similar situation and how did you resolve it?

Thanks.

PepeM

Sell the one you don't like.

Trakhak

If you're not racing, most of the advantages of newer frame and component technologies are irrelevant. I have several sub-17-pound bikes, and yet I've ridden my '87 Cannondale SM500 MTB for 95% of my miles for the past three years.

trailangel

That is what i am talking about!

cale

I get it. You're lonely without your Peugeot. It gets better. I promise.

indyfabz

Huh? He is riding both.

OP: What is there to resolve? So you like over the other. For commuting I like my LHT over my Bike Friday. Stop the presses. Not! I am curious. Can you explain why you felt the need for help with this?

Nachoman

Add another bike to the quiver.

bikemig 

Only one extra bike won't solve this problem.

knobster

I think it's about the bike "speaking" to you. I've had a couple bikes that just seemed to fit my personality and while they weren't as fast as my carbon road bike, they just fit my style and I didn't feel the need to live up to the bike I was riding, rather it was more about the ride and enjoying myself. I get it, but it's fun to take the modern bike out for a spin from time-to-time.

puddinlegs

My old Italian steel bikes were very nice. Both prettier than my current bike, but ride wise, no... the new CF bike is superior in every way.

cale

He can't ride both simultaneously, that's not possible, outside of circus rings. Haha

No. This has to do with denial.

catgita

Some bikes fall a little flat. How it feels out of the saddle wins me over. If I cant wait for the next rise, and fly over longer and longer hills, I love it. So far, the only bikes that have given me that feeling have been steel, even though other materials felt more, something, on a test ride.

My fondest bike memory was a Peugeot from the mid 1970s, but I outgrew it. Every bike since has been an attempt to recapture that feel.

CycleryNorth81

You need to embrace the N+1 syndrome, where N is the number of bike(s) you currently have.

chasm54

I have been in a similar situation. The nicest-riding bike I ever had was a 1984 Raleigh Royal tourer.in Reynolds 531. I ejnoyed (still enjoy) the TCR I used to race on, it's lighter than the Raleigh and the modern groupset is much superior, but when just riding around... . well, that Raleigh was like riding on an angel's shoulders.

Unfortunately the situation was resolved by a Toyota driving into me at an intersection. I survived, but the Raleigh didn't. I have, however, invested in a custom steel road bike in Columbus Spirit. A perfect fit, of course, and all the benefits of the modern groupset, carbon forks etc. Surprise surprise, it gets ridden much more often than the TCR.

Incidentally, the TCR, just like your Scattante, was fitted. My contact points are exactly the same distance from one another on both bikes. But on the custom bike the effective top tube is slightly shorter so I run a longer stem with the result that my weight is rotated fractionally forward over the front wheel. Add a marginally longer wheelbase and I have a better-handling bike which, I think I'd be faster on in a flat crit despite it weighing 3lbs more. Maybe something similar is going on between your Peugeot and the Scattante.

Anyway, what really is the problem here? Ride the bike you like. Not too difficult to upgrade to a modern groupset on the Peugeot if you want the best of both worlds.

avidone1

Sometimes we buy something new just because we can. I know I do.
Yet there are times when that "old familiar" whatever, is still going strong.
It's kinda like a well broken in pair of shoes, or an easy chair that has molded to your frame.
They may not be the sleekest style or the "in" color, but the attachment cannot be denied.

rydabent

This is the very reason that some of us old guys think that bikes kind of reached a zenith back in the 80s. This goes for the steel double and triple butted lugged frames anyway. Some of them were actual works of art. Most of them in that time frame had down tube shifters that made them some of the cleanest looking bikes ever. And yes, to top it off they rode great.

Needles

I haven't ridden anything I like better than my '85 Kamra for road bikes.

ciderguy

Keep riding both of them. Eventually, you'll decide to sell one or N+1 to something else.

cale

In January of this year, I sold my mid-80's Casati, (SL, chrome w/ panto, 7400 DA, TTT, etc) to fund the transformation of my road disc bike (aluminum) into a drop bar road bike (a road group plus bars). The Casati was, in a sense, transformed into a early 2010's aluminum bike. Wait it gets better...

The aluminum bike was stolen 6 months later. In a moment of absolute insanity, the insurance company chose to fund a titanium bike (by the same name).

Now n+1 includes a titanium bike where just 9 months earlier a mid-80's Casati once figured.

This sounds too good to be true and I'm still pinching myself, but I was very emotionally-vested in the Casati. I had it built to meet my racing needs of that time. But it wasn't carrying its weight in terms of the utility (big hills, abundance of rain, and 30 years of my own aging) and I could't bring myself to break it apart just to save a mid-eighties SL frame. I hoped someone else would enjoy it for what it was.

It was a tough decision and one, OP, I hope you don't have to make. However, in this case, preferring an older bike actually stood in the way of riding a better bike.

70sSanO

There are a few ways you can go...

You can put each bike into a differnet bucket and use this one for this type of riding and the other for that type of riding...

You can modify the Scattante to set it up to be more like your Peugeot.

You went from 12 speeds to 20 speeds and from a 80's standard crank (52/42?) to a compact (50/34). It may not just be a modern bike but all those additional gears that equals more shifting. You get more performance, but you do have to shift through more gears. Also that 50/34 (I assume) setup is not the panacea for everyone. I always thought that was a pretty crappy setup unless you can really turn a 50 and you need a 34 to get up hills. And you have an 11t that you may not ever use except downhill.

If it were me I'd re-evaluate the drivetrain ans see what changes I can make to make it more fun.

And if that fails you can just sell the Scattante.

John

Stucky

Yep! Been there; done that!

Recently sold my '13 Venge ($5K when new, with upgrades, including carbon bars- I bought it used for a third of it's new price) and kept my '97 Klein.

The Venge was O-K- it was comfy; and had the characteristics I prefer in a road bike: Stiff and agile- but it didn't do anything that the Klein can't do; and I like the feel of the Klein's real metal on the road. Both bikes were comfortable; I ran about the ame seat-to-bar drop (5") on both; same position; etc. but the difference between metal and plastic on the road, is a biggie. Plastic just don't[sic] do it for me.

Figured i might as well sell the Venge while i could get all of my money back on it. Put less than 1000 miles on it. I don't miss it. No more modern bikes for me (I've ridden a few- they all seem the same). My next bike will likely be a vintage steel DeRosa or similar. And i want downtube shifters- brifters are inefficient.

I wanted to see what all the hub-bub was about modern CF bikes, so I gave them a try. They're not for me.

chasm54

Most framebuilders would disagree. Geometry, fork material, wheels, tyres, all make a bigger difference to ride quality than frame material.

This is a joke, right? I mean, I rode downtube shifters for many years, I'm very comfortable with them, but the idea that brifters are less efficient is simply absurd.

70sSanO

Currently I ride index downtube; friction until 6 months ago. I recently changed my wife's bike from index downtube to brifters and she will never go back.

Downtube shifters may be more efficient from a pure mechanical perspective of pulling a cable, but brifters are more efficient from a riding perspective; especially when you need to make a shift through a sketchy section. There is something to be said that no mountain bikes (that I am aware of) ever came with shifters mounted on the downtube so the rider had to remove his/her hand from the handlebar to shift. And yes, I am familiar with the differences between thumb shifters (which I still use for FD) and brifters.

That said downtube shifters can be fun.

John

bmthom.gis

How much tire clearance does your scattente have? If enough, outfit it with CX tires and have yourself a gravel grinder!

El Gato27

Yep, that kinds sums it up. When given the choice I always lean towards the Peugeot, just seems like a more fun ride. IMO the down tube shifters are a plus. Not saying they are more efficient, just more my style.

History seems to repeat itself, had a 1991 Honda Accord that was lots of fun, handled great, very comfortable, 5 speed, put 257K miles on it. But the paint was fading, needed a timing belt, tires, etc..... Didn't make financial sense to keep it so I bought a new Toyota and sold the Accord. You know the rest of the story.