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Old 12-31-15, 04:27 AM
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I like either:
https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Produc...2_574013_-1___ or https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Produc...2_167805_-1___

I hate the facrt that the one bag is red, but otherwise it looks like a good bag, but the Nashbar bag , while not particularly attractive, looks more functional ... but a little less well made.
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I normally carry quite a bit of stuff when I ride, normally I keep it in a trunk bag or a large saddle bag but with the Wahoo computer display it doesn't work well with my phone in my back pocket or the trunk bag and works much better with a handlebar bag or mounted on my handlebars. I like the trunk bag because it is large enough to carry a some extra clothing (hat, gloves and rain jacket). My repair kit is a bit bulky since I carry a multi tool, tube, tire irons, inflator and cartridges, tube repair kit. I also carry a wallet, and some emergancy food when I ride. Because I carry all of this, I like the trunk bag. The ortlieb handlebar bag works fine too and there is a seatpost bracket that adapts the Ortlieb Handlebar bag to be used as a saddle bag. I use this setup on my folder.
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I put a handlebar bag on most of my bikes to carry tools, a spare tube, seat cover and the like. My favorites are the Dill Pickle bags (Dill Pickle Gear).

One benefit fit of bar bags that I don't think anyone has mentioned is that you can get stuff from it even when you're riding. So if you want to carry food, sunglasses, etc, it's the better way to go.
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Originally Posted by Calla lily
Is it Louis Garneau Oxford Handlebar Bag? I was just looking at this one, and the price and size looks good. I wish it had an additional pocket and maybe not the big handle sticking up at the top. Looks nice though.
Be careful about the attachment. If it doesn't have some sort of quick release system, it will be difficult to get the bag far enough away from the handlebars to not cause interference with the cables.

A word of caution on the bags: While the Ortliebs are expensive...they could even be called very expensive...you do get what you pay for. Most importantly, they are waterproof, as in you can almost use them as a floatation device without water getting to the inside. I've ridden with mine in downpours where I should have even been on a bicycle but no water got into the bag.

They are also very well made. Mine is about 12 years old and has about 10,000 miles of touring on it and I expect it to last about 100 years more. They are also very well designed. Many of the less expensive bags only have stiffeners around the mount and nothing below that. This allows the bag to sag towards the bike and front wheel. The sag gets worse with time. I had a bag...I think it was a Topeak...that sagged horribly and I had to add stiffeners to hold it up. The Ortlieb won't do that.

Finally, there is the cost. As someone once said "Only a rich man buys cheap tools." Cheap tools...or in this case cheap bags...won't last as long and you'll have to either buy a second tool or buy the more expensive one later on. Either way, you pay twice and don't really save money in the long run. I'm not saying that the Garneau is a bad bag but it's not going to be a good, as waterproof nor as long lasting as the Ortlieb.
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I ordered the Oxford bag. It says it has a handlebar mounting bracket. So we'll see. I also like the other Louis Garneau bag, the red one, except for the red color. There's a black one out there too. But it's probably too big for what I'll need to carry on my usual rides.
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Thought I'd give an update. I got the Oxford bag. It does have quick release. It's a good size for my usual rides, maybe even too big (I haven't got any repair kit to put in it yet, I wonder if a mini pump would fit too). There's probably enough room for a lock, and with the shoulder strap, it will be nice for the few times I might need to leave the bike (I like to ride to the local state park but need to lock up the bike to walk the boardwalk to go see the manatees). The magnetic closer seems like a possible weak point, like it could open on a big bump, but it was fine on the first ride with it today. I'm going to add some velcro tape to the flap for insurance. I wish there were a couple dividers but I'll do something to make a compartment for my phone so it won't hit keys or tools. The bag is kinda heavy for the size and feels well made. There are inserts for the bottom and sides to stiffen those, and the front, back, and flap are stiff as well. It appears it will be water resistant enough (my phone is waterproof and anything that may get ruined by water will go in a bag). It's pretty reflective. In close up picture the bag looks slightly pink, reflecting the pink shirt I was wearing.
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Good color for the bike.
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https://www.blackburndesign.com/bags/...l#.VpM62hUrIQw
Nicest bag, most functional bag I have owned in 30 years. Quick release with a strap to keep it with you when you lock your bike.sufficient capacity for a long days riding. map/phone pocket in top to keep phone/gps/turn sheet visible. Just wish I spent the bucks up front and was done with it. Nice mount frame that doesn't allow slippage.
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Yeah, that's perfect. Now I know what to buy for my next serious tour. Thanks. (Pricey, but worth it for a long tour where getting essential stuff soaked and ruined is Not an option.)
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For handlebar mounts, I prefer Rixen and Kaul (like Ortlieb), which have a weight-bearing cable wrapped around the stem. Other mounts rely on the the force of clamping, so need to be over-sized and are never as strong.
If you choose a rear rack, note that you have an XS frame with XL wheels. To top of the rear wheel is way too high to fit a rack.
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The mount does have a cable wrapped around the stem. The bag isn't going anywhere. I plan on asking the lbs about a rear rack next time I'm there. I'm not sure why something like this one wouldn't fit. Rack-It Metro Rear Lite (Racks) - Bike Gear | Giant Bicycles | United States
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mudguards also help .. as an Old Bike Shop Mechanic I expect the people at yours can make a rack Fit.

the front struts do have to be extra Long.. to reach down to the frame mounts.

an alternative is a seat post band clamp which has a couple extra Mounts for the rear rack struts on It,
for your frame design that is not much higher up..

Or getting Clever adding a band around the seat post shaft so the rack struts take a shorter route.
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Originally Posted by Calla lily
The mount does have a cable wrapped around the stem. The bag isn't going anywhere. I plan on asking the lbs about a rear rack next time I'm there. I'm not sure why something like this one wouldn't fit. Rack-It Metro Rear Lite (Racks) - Bike Gear | Giant Bicycles | United States
That particular rack probably won't work on your bike. Your bike is rather small and doesn't seem to have the brake bridge where that rack needs to mount. You need a rack with two rack stays like this one from Sunlite. The ends of the rack are secured to your bicycle by the two bolts on either side of the seatstay of your bicycle.

Additionally, I would suggest the round stays of this kind of rack over the flat stays of more common racks because it has greater flexibility when mounting. The size of your bicycle makes mounting a rack more difficult. The Sunlite has longer stays to attach to the frame and you can also find replacement stays that work and are even longer if necessary.

Good luck!
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
Careful if you buy one of these. I didn't do enough research and messed up.

The basic product is excellent. Bag is tough, streamlined, roomy, well-made, and so is the rack. However, with the trunk bag on the rack on I cannot use any other panniers ... I am sure Ibera makes panniers I could buy which might work with the trunk attached, but I already have three sets of panniers and cannot see buying another ...

Make sure you get a bag/rack setup which either accommodates other brand panniers, buy Ibera panniers which work with the trunk bag, or decide to forego panniers altogether.
If you get the Ibera clip on Pakrak trunk bag, and want to also use panniers, I think you need to have the other carrier that Ibera sells. it sounds like you have the IB-RA16/IB-RA15. The carrier you would need is the IB-RA4/IB-RA5 which has more space for the panniers away from the trunk bag.
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IMO a trunk pack causes far less drag than a handlebar bag.
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