Taking breaks during ride or reduce distance?
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I don't think you mentioned the exact bike, but get good tires, often $40 or so per tire if you get them cheap. There are quite a few threads discussing different tires, and flat resistance. Watch where you ride.
Also spend a few minutes trying to figure out the cause of every flat. It could be anything from bad rim tape to a piece of glass or radial tire wire in the tire carcass. If you're getting blowouts, the tire could be stretched, or you might not be getting the tube installed right.
Make sure you have adequate pressure in the tires for the tire size and weight (the sidewall rating is a good place to start).
Also spend a few minutes trying to figure out the cause of every flat. It could be anything from bad rim tape to a piece of glass or radial tire wire in the tire carcass. If you're getting blowouts, the tire could be stretched, or you might not be getting the tube installed right.
Make sure you have adequate pressure in the tires for the tire size and weight (the sidewall rating is a good place to start).
Both of these blew out on the trainer.
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Ok, I installed the sensor and started going in Zwift and realized that I my comfortable cadence was only 45rpm! I pushed up to 80 and after a couple minutes it felt right. Then my tube blew out which was the second time in 20 minutes. No wonder these wheels came free and not on the bike
Long, steady rides are good to get your body adapted to riding for distance. Your cells process fat better for energy, and you even grow more capillaries for blood flow.
But intervals, where you ride at the max, are good. Occasionally is enough!
Sources of flats Your wheel is fine, the cause should be fixable.
EDIT--I see you replied.
Did the tube blow out with a loud bang, or a hiss?
Where is the hole? Near the valve, or on the hub side of the tube, or on the outer tire side?
Bang-- the tire bead that locks into the rim came off. There will be a long cut in the tube. Usually from mounting the tire wrong, but the tire might be bad.
hiss -- is the hole on the inner side? check the rim tape that distance away from the valve hole (in both directions) You don't want the drilled spoke hole uncovered at all. Hole on the outside? Something is stuck in your tire.
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Gatorskin tires should be good, if there isn't something in them. I periodically probe the bottom of every hole in the tires for glass, especially if I mount an unknown used tire.
Some people orient the valve with either the tire label or tire pressure markings. I usually just pull tire and tube off together. Do a quick check for the hole with them together, then if I don't find it, remember where the valve was and pull it apart.z
Make sure your valves are 100% straight. Especially with Schrader valves. Before inflating, you can squeeze the tire and roll it in a circle to get the valve straight.
Depending on how bad the wheel is, you may be able to true it. I have wondered if a tire too far out of true causes some lateral stress on the tube, and can cause it to leak in unexpected ways (around a patch?).
New parts never hurt, and can make the riding experience much more pleasant.
Some people orient the valve with either the tire label or tire pressure markings. I usually just pull tire and tube off together. Do a quick check for the hole with them together, then if I don't find it, remember where the valve was and pull it apart.z
Make sure your valves are 100% straight. Especially with Schrader valves. Before inflating, you can squeeze the tire and roll it in a circle to get the valve straight.
Depending on how bad the wheel is, you may be able to true it. I have wondered if a tire too far out of true causes some lateral stress on the tube, and can cause it to leak in unexpected ways (around a patch?).
New parts never hurt, and can make the riding experience much more pleasant.
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I went out for my morning ride and did half the distance but kept it around a 70-80rmp. Not only do I feel like is was 300% more productive it also solved my problem of not getting warmed up until after 5 miles. It only took about a mile. Thanks for your help everyone! I'm glad I got that corrected now rather than later.
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One question: is it necessary for a beginner to do long hill climbs? I think not. Well, not that soon. Building aerobic capacity takes time depending on age, the number of times a week a rider goes, etc.
Hill climbing shouldn't be avoided, but is not necessary for the beginner. I would let the beginner gain confidence first. Confidence in the ability to ride for an hour without being concerned that he/she cannot finish. Confidence that there is a sweet spot in the pace and even improvement in pace.
Its a lot like distance running.
Hill climbing shouldn't be avoided, but is not necessary for the beginner. I would let the beginner gain confidence first. Confidence in the ability to ride for an hour without being concerned that he/she cannot finish. Confidence that there is a sweet spot in the pace and even improvement in pace.
Its a lot like distance running.
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One question: is it necessary for a beginner to do long hill climbs? I think not. Well, not that soon. Building aerobic capacity takes time depending on age, the number of times a week a rider goes, etc.
Hill climbing shouldn't be avoided, but is not necessary for the beginner. I would let the beginner gain confidence first. Confidence in the ability to ride for an hour without being concerned that he/she cannot finish. Confidence that there is a sweet spot in the pace and even improvement in pace.
Its a lot like distance running.
Hill climbing shouldn't be avoided, but is not necessary for the beginner. I would let the beginner gain confidence first. Confidence in the ability to ride for an hour without being concerned that he/she cannot finish. Confidence that there is a sweet spot in the pace and even improvement in pace.
Its a lot like distance running.
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I pootle along, stop buy lunch , pootle some more stop, sleep ... get up next morning , and do it again .
it has been my style of bike Touring.. given enough days you get quite far ..
it has been my style of bike Touring.. given enough days you get quite far ..
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One question: is it necessary for a beginner to do long hill climbs? I think not. Well, not that soon. Building aerobic capacity takes time depending on age, the number of times a week a rider goes, etc.
Hill climbing shouldn't be avoided, but is not necessary for the beginner. I would let the beginner gain confidence first. Confidence in the ability to ride for an hour without being concerned that he/she cannot finish. Confidence that there is a sweet spot in the pace and even improvement in pace.
Its a lot like distance running.
Hill climbing shouldn't be avoided, but is not necessary for the beginner. I would let the beginner gain confidence first. Confidence in the ability to ride for an hour without being concerned that he/she cannot finish. Confidence that there is a sweet spot in the pace and even improvement in pace.
Its a lot like distance running.
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I went out for my morning ride and did half the distance but kept it around a 70-80rmp. Not only do I feel like is was 300% more productive it also solved my problem of not getting warmed up until after 5 miles. It only took about a mile. Thanks for your help everyone! I'm glad I got that corrected now rather than later.
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I listen to my body. At 58 and with asthma, it complains a lot. I've learned to ignore my body's mundane whining and listen for the serious stuff. Today was my first day back in the saddle after a 3-day bout with a respiratory bug. Only an 8 mile ride and I stopped about half a dozen times to catch my breath when it felt painful (not just ordinary discomfort but lungs-on-fire burning) and I was getting dizzy. Probably need a couple more days to fully recover.
When I first returned to cycling again last August after a 30+ year hiatus it took me a month to cycle 10 miles, and even then I needed a 15-minute breather at the halfway point. Any improvement beyond that first couple of months is jelly on a biscuit.
When I first returned to cycling again last August after a 30+ year hiatus it took me a month to cycle 10 miles, and even then I needed a 15-minute breather at the halfway point. Any improvement beyond that first couple of months is jelly on a biscuit.
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You'll be much happier at cadence of 80! It's not clear what a "long hill" means in terms of length and grade, but there's nothing wrong with stopping if you need to. I used to do 9 miles each way on my commute, but it took going for 25+ mile rides for me to see improvement in endurance. 15 mile rides are a great start! You'll be able over time to see improvement in your fitness with the long hill. I have been through similar riding situations and still have a terrible time with hills. Climbing is not in me.
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Take it easy on yourself, take a break. This past summer while riding up the mountains in BC, I was so exhausted, I could only ride about a hundred meters at a time, I wouldn't even clip in I was turning over so slow. In time you will get stronger and not have to take a break. I live on the prairies, so training to ride in the mountains did not happen before my tour. So the hills kicked my a$$ the first few weeks, and then some!