Your two cents on Square Taper Bottom Brackets...
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Your two cents on Square Taper Bottom Brackets...
So, are sqare taper bottom brackets increasingly outdated technology in terms of weight, performance and durability when compared to Hollowtech? If given a choice of Hollowtech, why would one opt for square taper these days?
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Square taper is "outdated", but still works well as it has for decades.
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Campagnolo has been using hollow square taper bottom bracket spindles for years.
I'm mixed on bottom bracket types. One advantage of separate bottom bracket spindles and cranks is that it allows the bike builder to adjust the crankset horizontal position for several different reasons.
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Yep. I'm currently looking for a new crankset for my NoCom (in my avatar.) It needs a huge chainline to keep the chain away from the front wheel; and the best way will be to put something on a long-spindled square taper. Unfortunately, about the only square-taper stuff I can find is lower quality. It's kind of the same problem as keeping my 9-speed stuff -- the 11-speed keeps filtering down and eventually the only 9-speed componentry will be Altus.
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Three things - a square taper BB allows lots of chainline selection.
Square taper allows the use of millions of cranks already available including some of the best cranks ever produced.
Most modern cranks look ugly on vintage bikes.
Square taper allows the use of millions of cranks already available including some of the best cranks ever produced.
Most modern cranks look ugly on vintage bikes.
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I have square taper in one of my road bikes also i have square taper on my old mountain bike. In my other road bike i have sealed bottom bracket. What i see the square taper is turn more smooth than the sealed one.
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I personally like square taper BBs because I'm not a racer and I don't need the minuscule weight drop or slight strength increase that modern BB spindles have over square taper. I also like being able to use just about any cranks I find. As an example. At my local coop we have 2-3 large boxes of cranks for square taper. (Hundreds of cranks) We have maybe... 10 non-square taper cranksets in the entire shop. Sure, it's a bit biased because the coop generally caters to lower quality bikes. But still. Square taper works perfectly well and will continue to work perfectly well and not become obsolete for many years.
EDIT: I feel that square taper may be the last "universal" BB spindle type that we have. From here on forward they're just going to continuously update hollowtech/octolink/... and forever put old versions out of date and make them impossible to find parts for.
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If given a choice of Hollowtech, why would one opt for square taper these days?
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HT and other built in spindle type crank and BB system prevent the manufacturer from screwing the chain line up.
Square taper is a good BB system when the parts don't get mixed up, but integrated hollow axles are a much better system.
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Bobby, if your sealed unit isnt turning as smoothly it might be time to replace it. I have an ISIS BB cartridge from Nashbar and has worked well these past 4 seasons. It is lighter than traditional bearing units. Cost is less than 20.00US last I checked.
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I replace the bad bottom bracket is was bad but other bottom bracket i try sealed feel less smooth but before i see the sealed bottom bracket i had ride the bike is was fast too. But when i go replace the bottom bracket i found out the threads needed facing i take in LBS to do that job no have this tool that job finally cost me $30. I put in that bike sealed bottom bracket but i want try square taper bottom bracket because in this bike i have square taper crank 53/39
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I'm not a weight weenie or a performance nut, but after trying both, I say you can't deny the significant difference in weight or stiffness. Square taper BBs are fine. There is no denying that either.
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Square taper is trouble-free and very durable. It is plenty stiff; easy to replace/work on (if you ever need to); doesn't require constant attention and service; doesn't manifest creaks and noises; lasts forever; parts are cheap; you don't need all kinds of special fancy tools....
What's not to love?
What's not to love?
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Bearing longevity and cross-compatibility among cranksets. Weight isn't so much an issue on the bikes I build and ride; I'd argue that the performance difference is negligible; and durability is slightly worse for Hollowtech-style cranks.
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Square taper is trouble-free and very durable. It is plenty stiff; easy to replace/work on (if you ever need to); doesn't require constant attention and service; doesn't manifest creaks and noises; lasts forever; parts are cheap; you don't need all kinds of special fancy tools....
What's not to love?
What's not to love?
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Hollow tech is a fit and forget take it or leave it combination , as the spindle tube is part of the right Crankarm-spider
With square taper You can choose the chainline and cranks combination that works for You.
My Swiss Mountain Drive crank has 2 square taper crank-arms ... one a Captain's tandem right, and a single bike Left .
Neither are attached to the chainring..
And My Rohloff bikes Need a wider chain-line for the chainring, to match the cog in the back ..
With square taper You can choose the chainline and cranks combination that works for You.
My Swiss Mountain Drive crank has 2 square taper crank-arms ... one a Captain's tandem right, and a single bike Left .
Neither are attached to the chainring..
And My Rohloff bikes Need a wider chain-line for the chainring, to match the cog in the back ..
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