Various Bike Locks/Chains being defeated - Bringing clarity to your security options
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From what I have seen (on video, not in person) pro thieves get a nondescript van, drive around to racks, a guy jumps out the back with a cutter of some sort, and the bike is in the van and the van down the road in 30 seconds or so.
They bring the best tools they can buy or steal, because they are professionals---they spend all night driving around stealing bikes, and they know where to sell them before they start. They know what bikes are worth stealing and what they will sell for; they know how many bikes they need to make decent money. They count on no one paying enough attention to write down the license plate, which is probably stolen anyway.
Anyone with a decent pair of wire cutters or diagonal pliers (dikes) can cut through most cables in a very short time .... anyone who is carrying more tools that that is either some laborer who just happens to see a bike and have a bad thought, or is someone looking to steal bikes ....
Any lock or chain can be defeated, but the longer it takes, the better your chances with the pros. Why, though, would anyone ride a nice bike in a place where it would likely get stolen? if I lived in a big city I would either ride a throwaway beater or never leave my bike unattended for longer than it took to take a link and buy a drink.
They bring the best tools they can buy or steal, because they are professionals---they spend all night driving around stealing bikes, and they know where to sell them before they start. They know what bikes are worth stealing and what they will sell for; they know how many bikes they need to make decent money. They count on no one paying enough attention to write down the license plate, which is probably stolen anyway.
Anyone with a decent pair of wire cutters or diagonal pliers (dikes) can cut through most cables in a very short time .... anyone who is carrying more tools that that is either some laborer who just happens to see a bike and have a bad thought, or is someone looking to steal bikes ....
Any lock or chain can be defeated, but the longer it takes, the better your chances with the pros. Why, though, would anyone ride a nice bike in a place where it would likely get stolen? if I lived in a big city I would either ride a throwaway beater or never leave my bike unattended for longer than it took to take a link and buy a drink.
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Fast, retractable and enough of a deterrent for a rest stop. Fits in a saddle bag.
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Skylock video. I have to admit these look pretty sweet. Anyone use them yet?
https://youtu.be/6gyLPjDakAc
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I was thinking the same. How often does this lock act up and stay locked or not lock at all?! At least with an old school manual lock you know it works
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The best bike lock in the world won't work if you don't use it correctly:
I'm pretty confident my bike won't get stolen.
Of course it takes me an hour before I can go anywhere.
On the other hand, I'm glad to know that my pizza won't get stolen.
I'm pretty confident my bike won't get stolen.
Of course it takes me an hour before I can go anywhere.
On the other hand, I'm glad to know that my pizza won't get stolen.
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Every bike lock can/will be defeated with enough time.
My theory, lock it up in logical locations, than make your bike look harder to steal than the rest of the bikes in the rack.
My theory, lock it up in logical locations, than make your bike look harder to steal than the rest of the bikes in the rack.
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Live in a a Hot bed of Bike theft? you could Leave and Move elsewhere..
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Angle grinder always wins. Just takes a few minutes and generates lots of noise and sparks.
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Snowboard lock, like this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...4Y21EW0BNHNQ6Q
Fast, retractable and enough of a deterrent for a rest stop. Fits in a saddle bag.
Fast, retractable and enough of a deterrent for a rest stop. Fits in a saddle bag.
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This isn't news. We all know that there is no such thing as an unbeatable lock. There are just locks that take more time, thus are more of a deterrent.
Don't ever leave an expensive bike unattended, or a bike that you can't afford to get stolen. I won't EVER EVER EVER leave my nice carbon fiber road bike unattended or locked-up. I just ride it and take it straight home. If I stop somewhere, I take it with me.
I live in Atlanta, and regularly lock up my commuter bike outside the grocery store or a restaurant with a Kryptonite Mini 7 U-lock + cable loop. Most of the time my bike has the best lock of any bikes I see locked up. I regularly see expensive bikes being locked up with very flimsy cable locks, so I figure thieves would steal those before they steal mine. I think bike theft is not that big of an issue here apparently.
Don't ever leave an expensive bike unattended, or a bike that you can't afford to get stolen. I won't EVER EVER EVER leave my nice carbon fiber road bike unattended or locked-up. I just ride it and take it straight home. If I stop somewhere, I take it with me.
I live in Atlanta, and regularly lock up my commuter bike outside the grocery store or a restaurant with a Kryptonite Mini 7 U-lock + cable loop. Most of the time my bike has the best lock of any bikes I see locked up. I regularly see expensive bikes being locked up with very flimsy cable locks, so I figure thieves would steal those before they steal mine. I think bike theft is not that big of an issue here apparently.
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Skylock video. I have to admit these look pretty sweet. Anyone use them yet?
https://youtu.be/6gyLPjDakAc
This is a typical example of a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Nobody ever said "gee, its so much work to carry my bike lock key around, I wish I could use my smartphone instead".
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The stolen bike alert sounds great, but it can only alert you if it's on your local phone wifi network (huge battery killer for your phone) ...which pretty much means you have to be within 20' of your bike at all times, so why wouldn't you just keep your eye on your bike anyway.
Crash alert also seems handy, but there are already cell phone apps that do the same thing.
And the bike share thing, I'll never use.
So you're pretty much left with a really expensive u-lock.
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Skylock video. I have to admit these look pretty sweet. Anyone use them yet?
https://youtu.be/6gyLPjDakAc
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I have a gps tracker looking device under my saddle and leave my $1200 bike locked up in plain sight at train stations with a $7 cable lock. Bike thieves are convinced it's a bait bike and refuse to steal it.
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Has anyone tried common police handcuffs?
Advantages include ease of carry, and possibility a thief might hesitate to steal from a cop.
Disadvantages include being able to buy a key for a dollar or two, as most are keyed alike.
Advantages include ease of carry, and possibility a thief might hesitate to steal from a cop.
Disadvantages include being able to buy a key for a dollar or two, as most are keyed alike.
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yeah, I'd say that you have had good luck, not a good strategy. If I were a thief, I think $500 for a $1200 bike, I'd eat the cost of a new seat post and saddle.
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It's kind of intimidating to come back to your lock with cut marks on it! This happened to me when I returned from an errand and found my Abus Granit-X with a big gash in the top, clearly a hacksaw job. It's creepy to know someone was going through your bike, but also good to know your lock discouraged them. Anyways- get a good lock!
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It's kind of intimidating to come back to your lock with cut marks on it! This happened to me when I returned from an errand and found my Abus Granit-X with a big gash in the top, clearly a hacksaw job. It's creepy to know someone was going through your bike, but also good to know your lock discouraged them. Anyways- get a good lock!
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I have to apologize. I got a painful blister on my palm and had to stop. Next time I will finish cutting through the lock and take the bike. I had no idea my failure to steal your bike would make you so uncomfortable.