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Old 03-20-17, 05:19 PM   #76
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Then what's your excuse for posting a reply?


Not a bad day, just two thoughts occurring on the same day.


Lately I have read new threads where people ask a sincere question only to have most of the replies chastising them for not doing a search or assuming they didn't and other's just saying something like yours that you have to wonder why they made the effort.


If no one wants to talk on a forum or want to complain when others do, why come here and join? Seems like an odd way to waste one's life.
I'm sorry if you are still having a bad day, better luck tomorrow. Seems like you don't want today to end...
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Old 03-20-17, 05:37 PM   #77
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So, over the past month I have been stopped six times for directions. This includes me climbing a mountain, going in the opposite direction, and being stopped by a van that passed close earlier only to have to stop because they were lost and I caught up.


This has caused me to consider the relative impatience of motorists who must either slow or accelerate going around me and the patience they expect of me if they get lost. I will say that me stopping to give directions is longer than they must expend because I get in their way.


Maybe motorists who are not cyclist think we are not going anywhere important. Or, maybe I am more accessible since I am going more slow than cars. I wonder how many cars they tried to stop to ask directions?
Are you that self important that you can't help another human being out When they are lost?

I'm really beginning to wonder about bicyclists. Half the people on these forums come across as elitist snobs sadly.

And believe me I've got thick skin .
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Old 03-20-17, 05:40 PM   #78
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When motorists ask me for directions, I fire back "What does your GPS say?"

If they say they don't have one, I respond "How can you travel so far without checking your directions on a GPS or a map?"
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I ride through an area that's pretty confusing, and under construction. I've been asked for directions a few times. Usually it's an 18-wheeler, the driver has taken a wrong turn, and can't get turned back around. Once I just told a trucker to follow me, since it was not very far.
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Are you that self important that you can't help another human being out When they are lost?

I'm really beginning to wonder about bicyclists. Half the people on these forums come across as elitist snobs sadly.

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Are you that self important that you can't help another human being out When they are lost?
It's not that I'm not willing, it's that they typically corner me when I'm 50 miles from home, or worse, on an out-of-state tour. How am I supposed to know how to get to a church I've never heard of? Although once I (or rather, the motorist) lucked out. He pulled up alongside of me and told me he couldn't see me on the road, then proceeded to ask where the antique car club was meeting. It just so happened that I'd passed it about 3 miles back, otherwise I'd have had no clue.
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Old 03-20-17, 07:43 PM   #82
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It's not that I'm not willing, it's that they typically corner me when I'm 50 miles from home, or worse, on an out-of-state tour. How am I supposed to know how to get to a church I've never heard of? Although once I (or rather, the motorist) lucked out. He pulled up alongside of me and told me he couldn't see me on the road, then proceeded to ask where the antique car club was meeting. It just so happened that I'd passed it about 3 miles back, otherwise I'd have had no clue.
Nice but you're not the OP . And I completely understand your situation . Been in the same situation only I was on my motorcycle. To the cager... Dude I'm as lost as you are.
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I don't mind. If I can help, that is good. Easy to explain if I can not.
Being a Cycle tourist, I find myself asking for suggestion for local solutions. An easy trade-off, Karma.




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Old 03-20-17, 08:08 PM   #84
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I use to ignore them and keep going.

Now I try to help if I can. It's not really a big hassle.
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Old 03-21-17, 03:50 AM   #85
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Are you that self important that you can't help another human being out When they are lost?

I'm really beginning to wonder about bicyclists. Half the people on these forums come across as elitist snobs sadly.

And believe me I've got thick skin .


Calm down, the elastic in your shorts may be too tight.


I stopped each time. The point is that motorists get perturbed at being slowed down often floor boarding the accelerator as they pass so as to blow as soot as possible in my face. The irony is when I am stopped for directions I expend more time than the motorists are inconvenienced by a bicycle in their path.
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Again, why start duplicate threads two months apart? Obviously you are still worked up about this, why not just continue the original thread? Maybe ask a mod to consolidate them.
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Just bumping this up to supplement OP's new duplicate.Motorists Asking for Directions
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Am I allowed to cut and paste my reply in the other thread?
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I am a serious, elite, and snobby cyclist. I don't mind giving directions. I am thrilled to make a motorist happy for once. Maybe they won't blow the horn at me next time and yell at me to ride on the sidewalk. And who cares about this dude's other similar posts? Post in one, post in the other, or post in neither. It's not a big deal. I hope he makes a third one.
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I am a serious, elite, and snobby cyclist. I don't mind giving directions. I am thrilled to make a motorist happy for once. Maybe they won't blow the horn at me next time and yell at me to ride on the sidewalk. And who cares about this dude's other similar posts? Post in one, post in the other, or post in neither. It's not a big deal. I hope he makes a third one.


I also hope he makes a third one. Motorists asking for directions: A look back.
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I also hope he makes a third one. Motorists asking for directions: A look back.
Perfect.
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... I hope he makes a third one.
Revenge of the Lost Motorists: This time, it's for keeps.
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I'm sorry. A couple more...


The Texas "Google Maps" Massacre

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A Nightmare on "What Street?" 3 - Weekend Warriors

Directions?: Impossible III
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Only if you use those boxes to quote yourself and make it completely incomprehensible!
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I sense a certain irony here.

Has anybody ever had the same driver stop them on multiple occasions asking for the directions to the same place.

I know I haven't, but I intend to give the OP the same courtesy he might to someone like that.
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I'm just glad when they ask for directions I can give. I have had to depend on the kindness of strangers when lost, and feel I'm obligated to pay it forward if I can. I used to work in a fast food place near a popular tourist spot. Used to have to give directions all the time. One time my boss repeated directions to this person a dozen times or more. They still pulled out and turned the wrong way. You really couldn't help but laugh.
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I don't believe you're really from NY.
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I don't believe you're really from NY.
We intentionally project a certain image, but if you ask anyone with first hand experience, they'll confirm that NYC is one of the best places to be if you find yourself in trouble and needing help.

In any case, I was bicycle touring far from home, going back to 1965. That was long before some of the things people take for granted these days. I also used to lead trips where the group might be spread out over 10 miles or more, and if/when things went bad, depended on the "car telegraph" to pass messages, or summon police or medical care.

I've also crashed, and if I had to wait for a bicyclist, it might have been a lo-o-o-o-ong wait. But motorists stop and offer aid.

So, as I post here so often, I think of motorist as fellow pilgrims, with the same needs and desires as I have. (except they stay dry in the rain).
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When a motorist asks me for directions, I pull out the Bible and make him swear on it to

Change lanes properly when passing a cyclist.
Write to his local politician to build more separated bike lanes
To check for cyclists before opening doors or turning right.
Cease from honking or yelling at cyclists.
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