Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-30-02, 05:35 PM   #1
wabbit
Sprockette
Thread Starter
 
wabbit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Canada
Bikes:
Posts: 5,503
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Your Daily Verbal abuse!

On your ride today, what kind of verbal abuse (if any) did you get from motorists, pedestrians or other non-cyclists? And what did you do to respond?

This is assuming that you were obeying the rules of the road, weren't being reckless and were generally behaving and didn't deserve the verbal abuse. If not, then you pay the price!

So tell us all about your verbal abuse for the day and what you did in return!
__________________
You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. That's great...if you want to attract vermin.
wabbit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-02, 05:55 PM   #2
WorldIRC
Canadian eh?
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Toronto
Bikes: 2015 Cannondale Synapse Carbon Ultegra
Posts: 1,830
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
i got honked toady on my MTB on my way to the LBS to work. I take this road everyday and I know how it works. I was over to the side as far as I could go as I wont ride on the sidewalk/shoulder thingy. So as the first white car honked for no reason and gave me his finger i realized it was a buncha kids my age. So i grabbed the sandwich in my pocket, sprinted up that frikin Civic and threw it in the window, then i jumped on the sidewalk and made a u'ey and ran down the hill to take the alternative route. they couldnt make the u'ey as theres a boulevard in the middle of the road.

i got his clothes all dirty and he freaked. i dont let no 16 or 17yr olds my own age hnk and swear at me.. they werent even doing a get out of the way honk, its a urr a *** for being on a bike honk so..
WorldIRC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-02, 06:00 PM   #3
TotalKos
Senior Member
 
TotalKos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: the T-Dot
Bikes:
Posts: 171
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
good.

Some people might find your action a bit rash. Not sure, but I can see myself doing the same thing (unless I really wanted the sandwhich). I say "to hell" wit em.
TotalKos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-02, 06:07 PM   #4
WorldIRC
Canadian eh?
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Toronto
Bikes: 2015 Cannondale Synapse Carbon Ultegra
Posts: 1,830
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
dont matter. i had 1 sandwich already and i work by a donut shop.

lol this was on highway 7 and keele on top of the train bridge for those who live in TO
WorldIRC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-02, 06:08 PM   #5
WorldIRC
Canadian eh?
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Toronto
Bikes: 2015 Cannondale Synapse Carbon Ultegra
Posts: 1,830
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
like i said im 16 and this was a buncha 17yr olds just acting like 17yr olds.
WorldIRC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-02, 06:12 PM   #6
TotalKos
Senior Member
 
TotalKos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: the T-Dot
Bikes:
Posts: 171
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I know the area. I live sort of near there. Not too close but it's Lawrence and Jane.
TotalKos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-02, 06:14 PM   #7
Walter
SLJ 6/8/65-5/2/07
 
Walter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: SE Florida, USA aka the Treasure Coast
Bikes:
Posts: 5,391
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Sometimes people just need their a$$es kicked, or at least a sandwich smeared all over their threads . You should consider it a favor to the person as you're just giving them something they really need. Always make sure you have an escape route planned though.

I must say that the drivers on my usual 20 mile route are pretty good. I don't think I've been honked more than 2X in well over a year of riding that route and even more importantly drivers swing ride when passing. There's always tomorrow though......

This is a huge improvement over riding in Miami where you'd have to be ready to throw down at any given time and just getting honked was considered proper etiquette.
__________________
“Life is not one damned thing after another. Life is one damned thing over and over.”
Edna St. Vincent Millay
Walter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-02, 06:20 PM   #8
WorldIRC
Canadian eh?
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Toronto
Bikes: 2015 Cannondale Synapse Carbon Ultegra
Posts: 1,830
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
well Highway seven is not a major highway like an interstate its more like an equivalent to a US highway like US 1 in florida or something. You cant make a U-turn therefore they cant get to me especially when the street is in gridlock. Total Kos. im in thornhill so..
WorldIRC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-02, 07:24 PM   #9
Chris L
Every lane is a bike lane
 
Chris L's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia - passionfruit capital of the universe!
Bikes:
Posts: 9,626
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I get honks and verbal abuse all the time. I just ignore it, it's not worth me wasting my effort to respond to it. Funny thing I've noticed, very little of it actually happens on my commute anymore. Generally, people who actually have somewhere to go or something to do (i.e. a life) tend not to bother. It's only the dole-bludger low-life types with nowhere to go that bother usually.

Another thing is, because they absolutely must go nowhere at all at 120km/h+, most of their abuse seems pretty incoherent to me.
Chris L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-02, 07:31 PM   #10
Joe Gardner
BikeForums Founder
 
Joe Gardner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Utah.
Bikes:
Posts: 4,249
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
WB FJ!
Joe Gardner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-02, 07:48 PM   #11
Chris L
Every lane is a bike lane
 
Chris L's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia - passionfruit capital of the universe!
Bikes:
Posts: 9,626
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Greetings Joe. I have to apologise for my little temper tantrum after the "London Protests" thread. I do have one request tho, can I go back to being Chris L again? The Fatal Justice thing somehow felt impersonal, and everyone still seems to think of me as Chris L anyway.
Chris L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-02, 07:58 PM   #12
Joe Gardner
BikeForums Founder
 
Joe Gardner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Utah.
Bikes:
Posts: 4,249
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Not a problem, there have been times where i wanted to leave the forums
Joe Gardner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-02, 08:25 PM   #13
orguasch
riding a Pinarello Prince
 
orguasch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Downtown Toronto,Canada
Bikes: Pinarello, Prince and an FP5
Posts: 2,409
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
i was riding my bike when I decided to stop for a coffee at Tim Horton, but before I entered Tim Horton, I made brief call to my wife thru my cell, and at the drive thru window there was a car with mon driving and four teenagers as passenger, and the front passenger youth pointed at me and the whole kids started laughing, so my initial reaction what the f@4@2K are you laughing at, so what I did I gave them the old finger salute, the mom driving , I think scolded his kids, so the kids stop laughing, thats the only time I stop my midle finger from making the salute, you don't get to make me a laughing item on your life and get away with it,"no way Jose"
__________________
"Racso", the well oiled machine;)
orguasch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-02, 06:38 AM   #14
fubar5
0^0
 
fubar5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Rolla, MO
Bikes: Redline Monocog,Surly Crosscheck, Lemond Reno
Posts: 4,056
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I think I make it hard for motorists to abuse me verbally by passing them. I mean, how can you yell at a guy passing you on a bike?
__________________
Booyah!!
fubar5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-02, 10:24 AM   #15
wabbit
Sprockette
Thread Starter
 
wabbit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Canada
Bikes:
Posts: 5,503
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
The latest was yesterday, coming back from a ride on road that is actually a designated shared road. However, it doesn't guarantee everyone shares the sentiment. We were honked at and I thought the guy was just alerting us, but instead he yelled at me and then at my SO who was just ahead, "get off the road with your toys!" In french. I didn't have time to respond but shot him the bird. My SO yelled at him 'eat my dirty foreskin' and 'eat my farts' in french. The funny thing was this guy was a redneck driving an old beat up crappy, rusty toyota- he's the one who should be off the road.
__________________
You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. That's great...if you want to attract vermin.
wabbit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-02, 11:10 AM   #16
hosehead
Senior Member
 
hosehead's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Fort Collins, Colorado
Bikes:
Posts: 128
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I saw a show on the idiot box the other day about modern rage. There was a section on how violent and uncontrolled teenagers can be. I was horrified to see them videotaping a rampage where they rode by cyclists and pedestrians shooting them with red paintballs. They were hysterically laughing about it. The cyclists generally crashed, scared out of their minds and humiliated. The teenagers were arrested, so there's a happy ending. The world is so hostile.
hosehead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-02, 12:14 PM   #17
bac
Senior Member
 
bac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Pennsylvania
Bikes: Too many to list!
Posts: 7,481
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally posted by hosehead
I saw a show on the idiot box the other day about modern rage. There was a section on how violent and uncontrolled teenagers can be. I was horrified to see them videotaping a rampage where they rode by cyclists and pedestrians shooting them with red paintballs. They were hysterically laughing about it. The cyclists generally crashed, scared out of their minds and humiliated. The teenagers were arrested, so there's a happy ending. The world is so hostile.
Yup, I think I saw the same piece - but I saw it several months ago. I was soooooo glad to see that they got busted!!! They were obviously not too smart as they videotaped their own crime.
bac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-02, 01:03 PM   #18
TotalKos
Senior Member
 
TotalKos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: the T-Dot
Bikes:
Posts: 171
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
It just goes to show that if you are stupid enough to document a crime than you are waaay to stupid to comit one.

I saw the same show well over a year ago. Laughing like fools. I was laughing at them cuz I knew they must have gotten caught. Man if someone did some ish like that to me. It'd be on!
TotalKos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-02, 01:33 PM   #19
Oxymoron
Poky
 
Oxymoron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Pocahontas, Iowa
Bikes: 1999/2000 Rans Rocket - red, of course, and a forest green 2001 Specialized Expedition w/ 2" slicks, fenders and Jaand baskets
Posts: 166
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I had a guy look at me funny on the way downtown, so I killed him and his family...no wait, must stop voices in head...

Actually I am rarely yelled at. They just very quietly cut me off and try to run me over. Maybe if they yelled more I could be better prepared. The one time I was yelled at recently was by a guy cutting across a parking lot at 40mph. It sounded something like: "youahdjha udjhafpoi!" I wanted to tell him: If you want to insult others while driving you need to 1) slow down so we can hear you; and 2) fix your muffler so we can hear you.

While I had NEVER verbally accosted a driver before, this time I did. Must be a near death experience thing. Though I couldn't hear him, he definitely heard me (in language Joe has requested we not use). The funny thing is that as he drove past he looked familiar. But it turned out not to be who I thought--whew! Watch your public displays in smaller communities.

Clay
Oxymoron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-02, 03:37 PM   #20
Inkwolf
Grounded
 
Inkwolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Wisconsin, Land of the Cheeseheads
Bikes:
Posts: 900
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
The only time I've been yelled at so far was by a guy in a new red pickup full of young, possibly drunk rednecks...he yelled something about the Grand National. I think he was just trying to be funny (and failing) and I ignored him.
Inkwolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-02, 03:56 PM   #21
Amir R. Pakdel
Raised by beavers.
 
Amir R. Pakdel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Canada, Vancouver. Wave if you ever see me.
Bikes:
Posts: 254
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I am a pu**Ssy. I try to avoid conflict as much as possible. I really get nervous when someone threatens me and I forsee a possible hostile situation.

I dunno why, but I'm like that. It's a weakness but I really can't control it. When I am biking it is less of an issue and I feel more confident I think because of the pumped adrelanine.

It's not that I'm a physically weak guy. I regualrly work out, have a medium toned body (compared to the average guy at my age), and in good physical shape, but I'm quite insecure. At the moment of conflict I swallow my pride and try to avoid it, but moments later I piss at myself for being so passive all the goddamn time.

For example the other day I was on a narrow street, which still does have a symbol of a bike on its sign (indicating that this is a bike route), On this street there were huge semi-trucks going by and it was really stressing. Under my lips I was praying that it come to and end soon cause I was really tired as well.

and then this fat ugly bi***tch on a really old ass toyata tercel honks at me.

The immediate reaction from me was to jump on to the gaddamn sidewalk (and I'm on a roadbike) and didn't get a good chance to get back on the road for a long while since the cars wouldn't yield.

The funny thing is that as she passed me she and her daughter give me this stare, like "what the hell are you doing your ****** biker".

It wasn't a big deal, but to this day I wish I hadn't gone to the side walk and instead given her the finger. Or better, catch up to her and throw a big rock at her face. I'd gladly punch her if I see her again. I have gotten my share of crap in this life, time to give something back. One of these days the rage is just gonna come out as this huge explosion and probably with innocent bystanders becoming victims as well.
Amir R. Pakdel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-02, 04:14 PM   #22
Rotifer
WallaWalla!
 
Rotifer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Walla Walla, WA
Bikes:
Posts: 823
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
I think I make it hard for motorists to abuse me verbally by passing them. I mean, how can you yell at a guy passing you on a bike?
Exactly. I get quite a few stares as I flash by them or they can't shake me from their draft. Teenagers, especialy, have great respect for power and grace on a bicycle. As for being cutoff :irritated
__________________
Jeff
Rotifer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-02, 05:48 PM   #23
nathank
cycle-powered
 
nathank's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Munich Germany (formerly Portland OR, Texas)
Bikes: '02 Specialized FSR, '03 RM Slayer, '99 Raleigh R700, '97 Norco hartail, '89 Stumpjumper
Posts: 1,848
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
well, on the bike i'm kind of the opposite from Amir...

normally, i'm a pretty passive kind of guy and although i stick up for myself i usually avoid a 'macho' fight b/c it's usually not worth it - plus i grew up in Texas where you can get shot if you beat someone up! (the guy with the bloody nose returned to his car to grab his revolver stored under the seat...)

but when i'm on a bike i seem to have no fear and i've chased down motorists and yelled and threatened them and almost gotten into a number of fist-fights.

these days, i really try hard to tone it down and keep myself in control - mostly b/c i think it doesn't do much good - so i mostly wave when cars honk these days - confuse them or at least don't give them the satisfaction of irritating you

i guess when i really react is not when they just honk or yell something, but those times when someone almost kills me: when a driver makes a left-turn in front of me or rolls through a stop-sign in front of me - or a guy recently who took a sharp corner about 4 feet INTO my lane where i was going the opposite direction, forcing me to swerve off the road - he sped off, i turned around and chased him and caught him at a light and he kept his window up -- i laid my bike on the ground in front of the car so he couldn't drive off w/o driving over my bike (there were other cars around), got off and came to his window - finally he rolled it down about and inch and i politely explained that what he did was dangerous and i thought he should apologize or something... anyway, i scared the living sh*t out that guy!

if i think it might do some good, then i sometimes try to confront people, but the most of the time i just try the "ignore and wave" technique --- although sometimes i still get so pissed when i am almost killed that i do something aggressive... so far i haven't gotten shot, arrested or run over
nathank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-02, 06:08 PM   #24
Rotifer
WallaWalla!
 
Rotifer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Walla Walla, WA
Bikes:
Posts: 823
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Hey! I usually get flamed in here for admiting to stuff like that! OK, I wasn't going to tell this one. Last Friday a guy cut me off on my way home from work. I had to ride up on the opposite sidewalk to avoid him, then, immediately get back out into the road. He slowed way down and started to roll down his window, I pulled in front of him and accelerated away. After he honked several times, I reached arround, puckered my fingers and knocked them agains my butt ... like.. "kiss my a$$". Went home, headed out on the training ride. As I rode in from the ride, this dude pulls up on my lawn! This was 3 hourse after the initial incident. I was pissed, amped from the ride and jumped right in his face ( I am a long time Karate ka and have no qualms about getting on someone when it is necessary- though I avoid confrontation). Well, he starts in on how he just followed me home to apologize ... yeah right, this dude was big .. and he's parked in front of my door! Further, he says I insulted his fiancee by "spreading my cheeks" in front of his car. So, I proceeded to demonstrate that I couldn't spread my cheeks with spandex on. He persisted. So, I bent over, pulled down my bike shorts and spread my cheeks for him. He ran like the wind. The cops showed up at about 10:00pm laughing their asses off. Said they had to write a report since he had filed a complaint. Now everyone knows I am a perv.
__________________
Jeff
Rotifer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-02, 08:20 PM   #25
dirtbikedude
Gravity Is Yer Friend
 
dirtbikedude's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: "Over the Hill" and going down fast in the 805.
Bikes: Scott Gambler, Scott Ransom, Kona Bear, Bianchi 928 Carbon/Chorus, C'Dale Rize4
Posts: 2,961
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Being 6'2" and weighing 275lbs, I have had no problems with verbal abuse. Although I do have friends that get alot. I do know one guy who put a flag on his bike that stuck out to the side and drivers would try to hit it. Mind you it only stuck out about a foot.
Sliante
dirtbikedude is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:17 AM.