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Old 05-31-05, 08:39 AM   #1
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Jerks on bicycles

I am an avid bicyclist. I love riding my bicycles,whether it be a workout on the road bike, a trek on the touring machine or some off road adventure on my mountain bike. But I've had enough of the jerks on bikes. Working in center city Philadelphia I get to see more than my fair share of bad behavior. Much of it committed by bicycle couriers. Today a courier, racing through an intersection nearly ran down an elderly woman who hadn't quite reached the curb when the light went green. This guy had just threaded himself between two lines of stopped cars, out of the saddle and cranking for all he was worth, the light turned green in time for him not to break stride. He missed the woman by inches and she stumbled, nearly falling as she tried to get out of his way. I managed to get the jerk's attention and asked why he almost hit the woman? His smart ass answer, said with a smirk on his face, was that he hadn't almost hit her , it was he almost missed her.
Unfortunately, this isn't an isolated incident. Last year while in my car , stopped at a light, a cyclist trying to sqeeze through traffic scraped along the side of my car and then took off. The bill to fix this, $1100. Nice huh?
Of course no rant about jerks on bikes would be complete without a comment about the roadies whose peletons take up the entire road blocking traffic, giving the finger to anyone who objects.
Next time a car passes you little too close for comfort, cuts you off or tries to run you off the road, realize there is a reason.

Jerks on bicycles are a problem for us all.
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Old 05-31-05, 08:44 AM   #2
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Of course there are jerks in every group in society in that the population has a very high percentage of them!
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Next time a car passes you little too close for comfort, cuts you off or tries to run you off the road, realize there is a reason.
I agree there are a lot of jerks out there, but you say this as if such reckless motorist behavior is justified. I can't get behind that notion. If one cyclist does you wrong, is it right to take out your anger on the next one you see?
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How about roadies who pass you way too close?

I hate when they do that especially when there are 10 to 20 of them.
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Jerks ride bikes. Jerks drive cars. And I know I have been both at different times in my life. The trick as I see it is to calm down no matter what you operate. That's what I did. Now I enjoy driving and riding so much more.
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Jerks will be jerks.

Have you noticed how many jerks there are out there behind the wheels of cars, doing jerky things? In my completely subjective experience, people on bikes are much more likely to be friendly than people in cars. The thing is, unless you're attuned to cyclist culture it's real easy to miss a cyclist -- if he's not being a jerk. So people tend to underestimate the number of cyclists, and overestimate the number of jerks.

People in cars who do jerky things to cyclists aren't doing it because of other cyclists who were jerks. They're doing it because they're jerks.
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Next time a car passes you little too close for comfort, cuts you off or tries to run you off the road, realize there is a reason.
hahaha, wouldn't it be funny if YOU got cut off and run off the road?
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I agree there are a lot of jerks out there, but you say this as if such reckless motorist behavior is justified. I can't get behind that notion. If one cyclist does you wrong, is it right to take out your anger on the next one you see?
Of course not. Nor would any reckless actions be justified. Unfortunately human nature being what it is, it's understandable and scarier still, it happens.

my point here isn't that the only jerks out there are on bikes. It's that the ones who are create a problem for us all.
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Wow, just by reading this I would say you are being a jerk, but who am I to judge. Its funny how you say think about next time when someone runs you off the road. Well you can't really think about it if your DEAD!!!!
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There's a great Far Side cartoon- God is creating the world. There's a little planet on his workbench, and jars and boxes labled "insects", "mammals", and so forth.

He's holding a jar labled "jerks", and the caption says, "This'll make it interesting."
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There's a great Far Side cartoon- God is creating the world. There's a little planet on his workbench, and jars and boxes labled "insects", "mammals", and so forth.

He's holding a jar labled "jerks", and the caption says, "This'll make it interesting."
He must have used the entire jar!
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Let the man rant guys. How often do you get a jerk on a bike and how often does it get posted here versus all the nice people on bikes that never get mentioned here?
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Wow, just by reading this I would say you are being a jerk, but who am I to judge.

Let's see, over the past year I've shelled out over $1100 to cover bicyclist inflicted damage. Think of all the great bicycling gear that money could have bought but won't. It's not alot of money but it was spent in the worst way, wasted to cover a stranger's irresponsibility. Today I witnessed a cyclist who thought it funny to scare a little old lady. So now I'm in "Rant on" mode. If that makes me a jerk, so be it!
Hopefully, it makes us all think a little more before we pull some boneheaded move of our own.

Well you can't really think about it if your DEAD!!!!
Really? Sure about that?
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Its fine that you want to rant about someone being a jerk to some dear ol lady, but that doesn't make us all jerks or cyclists or anyone for that matter. All I'm saying is you said to think about your actions when someone pushes you off the road or something like that. Well let me tell you, a week ago I was pushed off the road by a car. I was not doing anything wrong other then riding. There wasn't much of a shoulder and I had no choice to ride but in the street, she got pissed cause there was a car coming from the other way and couldn't wait a whole two seconds. I was scared but not ANGRY. I drive everyday and even before I took up roadbiking I had always given motorcycles and bikers plenty of room.
My comment about being dead, was if someone pushes you off the road how are you to think about your actions when that push off the road could be the thing that kills you? We all do stupid stuff and I agree just being a jerk for the fun of it sucks, but I know for a fact that I'm totally aware of my actions when riding. Just try not to group people of that same relm together.
I'm so not trying to be a jerk to you. I am just stating how I feel.
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I like bike riding jerks better than the motorist variety! But damn I have seen my share of bike idiots. Like the woman who blasted down off a mountain in Frick Park and accross a trail nearly hitting some hikers. She said something like "you should have got outa my way you fat asses". Sweet huh?

I think that motorists need to feel some shame when they err. That's why I have a 200 db airzound horn on my bike. Harsh but fair and embarrasing. Also have a tinky bell too.
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I like bike riding jerks better than the motorist variety! But damn I have seen my share of bike idiots. Like the woman who blasted down off a mountain in Frick Park and accross a trail nearly hitting some hikers. She said something like "you should have got outa my way you fat asses". Sweet huh?

Exactly what I'm talk'in about. Nothing like spreading good will on a bicycle!

I think that motorists need to feel some shame when they err. That's why I have a 200 db airzound horn on my bike. Harsh but fair and embarrasing. Also have a tinky bell too.
I like it!

Some motorcyclist keep ball bearings, pennies or marbles in an easy to reach place. A car can give'em sh*t but it's gonna cost them a windshield. It's not right, but I understand.
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Tomorrow, let's report on the number of cars, trucks, bikes, motorcycles, buses and pedestrians we see on the road during our ride without negative incident.
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How about roadies who pass you way too close?
Some jerk did this to my wife and I yesterday. We were riding on one of the local MUPs, there were a bunch of families out riding with children, plus a bunch of roadies in groups of one to five riders going way too fast for the conditions, IMO. I had been watching my mirror purposely looking for too-fast overtaking bicycles, and suddenly this jerk appears from nowhere, passes me with a couple of inches of clearance, and drops in between my wife and I (she was leading). I pulled up next to him and started to explain to him about cycling courtesy, that he should at least give a "passing left" verbal warning...He looks back at me with a blank stare like he's not getting what I'm saying, and it's then I realize that he's got his ipod turned up so loud he can't hear a thing I'm saying. Unf*ckingbelievable!
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Jerks ride bikes. Jerks drive cars. And I know I have been both at different times in my life. The trick as I see it is to calm down no matter what you operate. That's what I did. Now I enjoy driving and riding so much more.
I like that , it kind of summed up what I was going to say, apart from the being calm in the car bit, havent quite mastered that one, am working on it though!!!
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I pulled up next to him and started to explain to him about cycling courtesy, that he should at least give a "passing left" verbal warning...He looks back at me with a blank stare like he's not getting what I'm saying, and it's then I realize that he's got his ipod turned up so loud he can't hear a thing I'm saying. Unf*ckingbelievable![/QUOTE]

The sad part is, I doubt the Ipod make a difference. The self centered just don't get it.
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I'm going with jerk store. Jerk store!
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The main problem I have with the bike couriers is when you're walking on the sidewalk and they zoom by and clip you, yet there is NO ONE else on the sidewalk and they could have easily given a foot or two of berth. What's the point in that?
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Next time a car passes you little too close for comfort, cuts you off or tries to run you off the road, realize there is a reason.
Not in DC. Around here people are jerks just for the sake of it. We have them in cars,on motorcycles,riding bikes,and even walking. And the group should not have to eat the bad karma of the individual. If a 'Skins fan does you wrong,should all 'Skins fans be punished?

BTW,I also happen to have my own jerk story. Last week,around dusk,there's this college kid zipping down the sidewalk on a MTB. Bike is black and he's wearing dark colors;no lights or reflectives. He's weaving through the peds with his hands off the bars. One is across his body perpendicular to the ground. The other one's elbow is resting on it with his hand under his chin. Like the gesture you'd see from someone going,"hmmm...interesting". Only this chucklehead is doing it while riding. Unbelievable.
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Kinda hard to talk on a cell phone, smoke a cigerette, scream at your kids, cut someone off and alomst kill them, while your riding your BIKE!!!!!
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