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Old 06-06-05, 03:57 AM   #26
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Don't really get the steel comment but since you put a big grin at the end don't know if I actually need to.
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Old 06-06-05, 09:46 AM   #27
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Well it sounds like if wireless is something you feel you need, the cateye is the way to go. But to me, it still sounds like unnecessary complication and cost for marginal benefit.. But hey, good to know that there is a quality wireless on the market for those who need it.

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This thread is very informative. I have been thinking of switching to wireless for sometime and got pretty much everything about wireless, cons and pros.

If the cost of replacement battery is stopping you from switching to wireless, here's a site selling them very cheap.

http://www.batteryspace.com/index.as...tSearch=CR2032

5 pieces for $1.95
50 pieces for $14.95 (shipping cost, $5.47 either way)

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What wireless units do cadence?
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Old 06-06-05, 04:01 PM   #30
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Well it sounds like if wireless is something you feel you need, the cateye is the way to go. But to me, it still sounds like unnecessary complication and cost for marginal benefit.. But hey, good to know that there is a quality wireless on the market for those who need it.

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Really is not near as complicated as maintaining the wire between the pickup and computer input.
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Really is not near as complicated as maintaining the wire between the pickup and computer input.
That's what I was going to say. Actually, what could be simpler - the main unit, the sensor, the magnet - that's it. No wires.
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Old 06-07-05, 06:02 AM   #32
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That's what I was going to say. Actually, what could be simpler - the main unit, the sensor, the magnet - that's it. No wires.
Exactly. Think of it in non bike terms such as the wireless phone in your home, your cell phone, remote control. Wireless makes life much less complicated. That applies to biking too.
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I find too much wireless stuff starts to interfere with each other (gps and xm radio cancel out each other's signals and sometime effect the hrm) Go wired.
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That's what I was going to say. Actually, what could be simpler - the main unit, the sensor, the magnet - that's it. No wires.
So what your saying is wireless is so much simpler.
But with a wired unit you save original purchase and not risks the chance of interference problems were you will constanly get stressed over until you buy a new computer even more money. All to save a one time 5 minutes of install, if takes longer than that you should have your LBS do it for you.
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Exactly. Think of it in non bike terms such as the wireless phone in your home, your cell phone, remote control. Wireless makes life much less complicated. That applies to biking too.
And when the power goes out you have no phone. Now thats less complicated.
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So what your saying is wireless is so much simpler.
But with a wired unit you save original purchase and not risks the chance of interference problems were you will constanly get stressed over until you buy a new computer even more money. All to save a one time 5 minutes of install, if takes longer than that you should have your LBS do it for you.
And how many times to I have to repeat the fact that the new Cateye Micro's DO NOT GET INTERFERENCE? You can believe that or not, but it has honestly been my experience with the unit thus far.

If the Micro WAS having the same old problems as other wireless units I've had in the past I would have said so, and I wouldn't be using it now. But it really is an awesome cyclo-comp, so it's staying on my rig until/unless it isn't.
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And how many times to I have to repeat the fact that the new Cateye Micro's DO NOT GET INTERFERENCE? You can believe that or not, but it has honestly been my experience with the unit thus far.
I can believe that your Cateye does not get interference in your application. I can also believe that it could get interference in some else's application. A sample of one is not conclusive. Your honesty is not in question.
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Old 06-07-05, 09:35 AM   #38
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I can believe that your Cateye does not get interference in your application. I can also believe that it could get interference in some else's application. A sample of one is not conclusive. Your honesty is not in question.

Lol go Waxbytes. Owned.
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I can believe that your Cateye does not get interference in your application. I can also believe that it could get interference in some else's application. A sample of one is not conclusive. Your honesty is not in question.
Well, I'll put it this way: I can't think of a much tougher urban environment than the one I'm in, short of something like the center of NYC or maybe next door to the CIA.

So what have you got to lose by trying it? I think the hype against wireless units is much overdone.

Anyway, I've got mine and I'm totally happy with it. You can have your steenk-ing wires!
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Weather proofness depends on if the person took the time to ensure the seals were correct and how the unit was designed in the first place, result: answers will vary.

I'll agree with the no go with the wireless. I'd trade mine for a wired right now. Freaking interference. At least I know now whether or not the traffic lights detected me by looking at the comp and seeing if it's spiking 99kph until I move off.
Did you plan on getting a patent on your new traffic light detection indicators? Sound like a handy thing in the city.
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I can believe that your Cateye does not get interference in your application. I can also believe that it could get interference in some else's application. A sample of one is not conclusive. Your honesty is not in question.

Nor is a month of ownership a good samping either.
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Nor is a month of ownership a good samping either.
What length of time wouild you say is sufficient? ie: at what point does one say, "Well, I guess this thing works OK."? 2 months? 12 months? 2 years?

I suppose with certain people nothing is ever 'good enough', even if it's flawless.
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And when the power goes out you have no phone. Now thats less complicated.
Now you are catching on. No power, no calls. Simple is defined from a personal perspective.
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But it really is an awesome cyclo-comp, so it's staying on my rig until/unless it isn't.
Now that is good logic (lol)
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What wireless units do cadence?
I know that he Mavic and the Vetta 100 do.
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What wireless units do cadence?
I have been using the Cat Eye CC-CD300DW for a couple of weeks now. Great wireless with cadence. I like the display that is clear and large enough to let you see speed, cadence, distance and time on one screen.

Manual is quite complicated (could to with a "quick sheet setup"), and it took me a few days to understand all the functions. (not sure though if I do today )

On the first ride, the dist stayed locked on ~41 miles for an unknown reason, I suspect I may have hit the "lap" button by mistake, or there was an interference. It has worked fine since.

Easy installation, quite complex set up. Handlebar bracket is "OK", design could be improved. Transmiter fits on LH chainstay with two straps, that is also something Cat Eye should improve.
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I have a wired on my MTB and a wireless on my roadie.

Now, on my MTB, the wire is trailed very neatly around the front brake cable, which is all good untill you get crap on it which is every ride, and then it just takes forever to clean off.

On my roadie, as you can see from the pics on the link in my signature, the installation is clean and does not spoil the look of the bike - very important for us roadies!!!

As for functionality, my Flightdeck has all that I need. It has a cadence function which can be set as the main display instead of speed, along with all sorts of other goodies including a lap counter, gear display, momentary display of gear ratios after a shift etc. which are all controlled from the tiny knobbles on the STIs - very handy.

So, I would recommend a wireless Flightdeck for a roadie - doesn't seem to mind getting wet, hot or cold and the batteries last fine too.
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On my roadie, as you can see from the pics on the link in my signature, the installation is clean and does not spoil the look of the bike - very important for us roadies!!!
That's why I like wireless - not as much clutter.
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I have two Cateye wired and a Vetta 100 wireless. They all work great. I love the Vetta (with cadence) and am about to get one for my TT bike.
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On my roadie, as you can see from the pics on the link in my signature, the installation is clean and does not spoil the look of the bike - very important for us roadies!!!
Aahhhhh.... Now we get to the real heart of the matter here... Appearance! Well, there is no accounting for taste, now is there?

And to whoever said, 'maintaining the wire', I'd like to know what is actually required to maintain a wire. It doesn't need adjustment, or lubrication. It doesn't need its bolts tightened, and it doesn't need to be clean. Its just a wire, very simple.

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