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Old 06-08-05, 11:29 AM   #1
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Insulated Water Bottle?

Hi all....just found this forum. Looks active...that's great.

I am looking for an insulated watter bottle? I've seen a few models (like Polar), but they only seem to be 24Oz bottles. I'd like at least 32Oz.

Then I came across Liquic Solution bottles which I think are 32Oz, but by the picture, I'm not sure if they would fit in the water bottle cage.


Can anybody recommend an insulated water bottle of 32Oz or more that will fit in a bottle cage?

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
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Old 06-08-05, 11:44 AM   #2
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Then I came across Liquic Solution bottles which I think are 32Oz, but by the picture, I'm not sure if they would fit in the water bottle cage.
Doesn't look like it will fit a standard bottle cage.
What's wrong with Polar? I have two on my road bike and one on my commuter.
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Doesn't look like it will fit a standard bottle cage.
What's wrong with Polar? I have two on my road bike and one on my commuter.
That's what I was thinking too...it looks too fat for the water cage.

I'm sure the Polar is fine, except that the larger is only 24Oz. I wanted two 32Oz bottles. I'm just looking for bigger (if it exists).

My one bottle now is 32Oz. but not insulated...its the right size, I just wish it would keep colder. I live in FL and it gets warm REAL FAST.
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Does anyone make a slide-on or zip-on sleeve for conventional waterbottles? It seems that if you wet the sleeve before riding, evaporation would keep the contents cool. The only things I don't like about water bottle water are the tepid to hot temperature and the plasticy taste.
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Does anyone make a slide-on or zip-on sleeve for conventional waterbottles? It seems that if you wet the sleeve before riding, evaporation would keep the contents cool. The only things I don't like about water bottle water are the tepid to hot temperature and the plasticy taste.
I know a lot of people don't like them but a Camelbak can be packed with a whole bunch of ice (pounds of it) and it will stay cool all day long. When I rode along the Lewis and Clark Trail in 2003, I'd pack my Camelbak with a bag of ice every morning. I usually had cold water when I stopped at night.
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That's what I was thinking too...it looks too fat for the water cage.

I'm sure the Polar is fine, except that the larger is only 24Oz. I wanted two 32Oz bottles. I'm just looking for bigger (if it exists).

My one bottle now is 32Oz. but not insulated...its the right size, I just wish it would keep colder. I live in FL and it gets warm REAL FAST.
Then just wear a camelback if you think you need that much water. Personally, living in FL, I do fine with two 24 oz bottles.
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Then just wear a camelback if you think you need that much water. Personally, living in FL, I do fine with two 24 oz bottles.
Maybe I'm overguessing my needs, but I have a 32Oz and a 20Oz now and usually "just" finish both of them, but could probably drink more if I had it.

I've been leary of camel packs for a similar reason....it's so hot that I can't imagine having that thing over my back while riding. It seems it would be even hotter.
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Does anyone make a slide-on or zip-on sleeve for conventional waterbottles? It seems that if you wet the sleeve before riding, evaporation would keep the contents cool. The only things I don't like about water bottle water are the tepid to hot temperature and the plasticy taste.
I thought that's what your old socks were for. It helps a little but if you bicycle for a couple of hours in 90 degree heat, your water is going to be 90 degrees too.
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Maybe I'm overguessing my needs, but I have a 32Oz and a 20Oz now and usually "just" finish both of them, but could probably drink more if I had it.

I've been leary of camel packs for a similar reason....it's so hot that I can't imagine having that thing over my back while riding. It seems it would be even hotter.
The newer ones have much better backs than the earlier models. They allow for more airflow and are much cooler. Add to the better ventilation the fact that you can carry a block of ice on your back and can drink ice cold water for the whole day (which is phenominally refreshing) and it's worth a bit of sweat. I use them for mountain biking and for touring and find that you get used to them quite quickly.
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I have a neat trick for getting rid of that 'plasticy' taste:

Pour a couple of tablespoons of captain morgan's spiced rum in the bottle, swirl it around and then rinse it out. Doesn't taste like plastic anymore...taste's like spiced rum! <grin>
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I thought that's what your old socks were for...
Sounds like a plan..
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Speaking of insulated bottles: I saw a bottle in REI the other day that was covered with some sort of foam. Apparently you soak the foam and the evaporation keeps the bottle around 20 degrees cooler than the air temperature. Anyone ever tried one of these?
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Speaking of insulated bottles: I saw a bottle in REI the other day that was covered with some sort of foam. Apparently you soak the foam and the evaporation keeps the bottle around 20 degrees cooler than the air temperature. Anyone ever tried one of these?
I haven't tried this product, but I've used evaporation for years. Take an old white cotton sock, soak it with clean water, and put a water bottle in it. Like you say, it keeps the water temp much lower on a hot day. Fits the cage just fine, hardly notice the sock if trimmed and just add water if it dries out.
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No raggin' on the camelbaks. I know they aren't 'roadie chic' but they do work. Look for the cycling specific models available from different brands like Dakine, MSR, and even nalgene. Many of them use different plastics and so have no plasticy taste (the Platypus reservoirs are the best at this, if you are concerned about it), and they have shaped backs that allow for a lot of airflow. I've worn my 3L Dakine all day in 98 degree weather without uncomfortable sweating. The cycling versions are often more aerodynamic as well, and don't have as many extra straps and pockets that you don't need.

I've got a neoprene sleeve around my water tube which keeps it cool (and keeps it from freezing in the winter), and I throw some ice in the bag when I fill it. Keeps things cool all day.

For those who just hate having stuff on their backs, I've also got a 1L camelbak 'flashflo', which is a fanny pack style, and is great on moderate length rides, and has a little pocket for carrying snacks.

Anyway, don't write them off if the last time you tried them was 5 years ago (or if you've never tried them), they have a lot to offer the serious cyclist.

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For now, I grabbed a couple of 24 Oz. Polar bottles, and will probably try that sock evaporation technique for even more temp control.

I am interested in a fannypack style camelpack that phidauex mentioned....may have to look in to that as well. Thanks for the head's up.
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Speaking of insulated bottles: I saw a bottle in REI the other day that was covered with some sort of foam. Apparently you soak the foam and the evaporation keeps the bottle around 20 degrees cooler than the air temperature. Anyone ever tried one of these?

I have one of these by the brand name "Maxchill" or "windChill" and they work ok in the evap cooling dept. They work even better though keeping you drink cold for a long time if it is partial frozen to begin with.

Living in AZ, I will fill this and my polar bottle about half way and then freeze them over night. Both stay cold for about the same time.
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Speaking of insulated bottles: I saw a bottle in REI the other day that was covered with some sort of foam. Apparently you soak the foam and the evaporation keeps the bottle around 20 degrees cooler than the air temperature. Anyone ever tried one of these?
Evaporative coolers work best if you live in a dry climate. The more humidity, the less effective they are.
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For now, I grabbed a couple of 24 Oz. Polar bottles, and will probably try that sock evaporation technique for even more temp control.

I am interested in a fannypack style camelpack that phidauex mentioned....may have to look in to that as well. Thanks for the head's up.
Good choice on the polars.

Two additional things you can do.

1. Buy a behind seat water bottle cage like the Profile Aqua Rack. You can fit another two bottles back here.

2. Get an extra small bottle and carry it in one of your jersey pockets. Use this bottle first during your ride so it doesn't get warm.
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