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Old 07-10-02, 10:58 PM   #1
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City living: Where to store bike?

I live in a large apartment building that has a communal storage room for bikes. Conditions are not ideal to say the least. Tenants are not allowed to take bikes up to their apartments due to fire code. The bike room has 2-level racks, which require bikes to be stored in close proximity. My bike is large enough that it takes quite a bit of coaxing to get it in and out every time. I'll get to the point...Last night I locked up my bike in the room, and left it in perfect condition. The rear wheel had just been trued, and tire pressure was known to be correct. Today, I went down for a ride only to find the rear tube had exploded. There was a huge gash down the side of the tube, and the tire had almost come completely dislodged from the wheel. Eventually, I find out that the wheel is also considerably bent.

I have no explanation for what happened other than vandalism. Does anyone else have ideas?

Finally, a LeMond that I will love dearly is on its way, and I am very hesitant about keeping this bike under such conditions. Do I have any options here?

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Old 07-11-02, 06:10 AM   #2
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Tenants are not allowed to take bikes up to their apartments due to fire code.
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If you canīt bring your bike with you into your apartment, you have to find a secure place to store it (a friend, a garage?), unfortunatley making riding it more troublesome.

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show the bike that was damage at the local storing room to your super, and explain to him, that your will be having a new bike and it cost a lost of money, and that you should be allowed to bring it to your apartment, if its a no go, then another option is go to the office of the Building codes and regulation , and find out what is the rule on Bike in a building, I think he is just hassling everybody to keep the bikes in a common storage room. I live in an apt. and there's no way will I leave my bike in a common storage room in the apt. building where i live, find out what the law on that one in your city, that the best thing you can do for the moment.
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If you canīt bring your bike with you into your apartment, you have to find a secure place to store it (a friend, a garage?), unfortunatley making riding it more troublesome.

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I won't recommen keeping a bike in the garage specially if you have a high end bike, its just to tempting for thives, and garages, are not safe now a days
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I won't recommen keeping a bike in the garage specially if you have a high end bike, its just to tempting for thives, and garages, are not safe now a days
I was thinking of a private garage at a suburb house/villa. A public garage is like you say way to insecure.

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Tenants are not allowed to take bikes up to their apartments due to fire code.
Huh??

How you know this? Have you called the FC people?

You have a couch, refrigerator, bed, table, ironing board, lamps, etc., in you apartment. They all got there somehow, and most are biggger and bulkier than a bike.

I think this is a line of BS from your building as they are afraid of scratching walls or whatever.

I've never heard of this kind of a fire code. Has anyone else?

Or, you could buy a shipping bike carrier which looks like a large suitcase to transport your bike up and down. Does the fire code prohibit suitcases?
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Yes, this has to be BS from the landlord. Don't stand for it. Call them on it. Show them your bike and present them with a bill for damages for which you demand payment or take pictures and send a certified mail letter enclosing pics. The owner has taken the responsiblity away from you and taken it upon himself/herself to keep your bike safe. They have insurance for damage or injury that occurs in common areas. How far do you want to take this?
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Tenants are not allowed to take bikes up to their apartments due to fire code.
I don't believe this for a minute. I'm sure the fire code limits what can be kept in hallways and stairwells. You can't lock your bike to the railing in the hall outside your door. And the fire code has things to say about blocking the exits from your apartment.

But a landlord has no legal right to limit what you keep in your apartment as long as it poses no hazard, makes no unusual noise, emits no noxious odors, causes no damage, or otherwise doesn't disturb anyone.

How would he even know there was a bike in your apartment?

Nonsense.

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Good point Fellas. I just assumed they knew what they were talking about, and never considered the fact that they might be full of crap

I am not in town right now, but as soon as I return I will march right in there and demand that I be able to keep my bike in the apt!

In their defense, maybe she thought I wanted to keep it outside my door, which would pose an understable obstruction to egress.

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Check with the fire department on regulations affecting storage of bikes in apartment builodings. There may be a regulation that requires that storage areas are provided, but like bike paths, it wont require that you use it. Dont demand that you be allowed to take your bike to your apartment. Just take it up.
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how the heck can a bicycle be a fire hazard? they must think you have a motor bike. i have an apartment for when im in the city I have 3 bikes all in the apartment. When im home im on a farm lots of room and still no fire hazard.

I agree with who ever said they may be afraide of you marking up the walls with your bike or tracking dirt and greese onthe carpets keep your bike clean and protect the walls good luck
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Your landlord must mean that bikes are not allowed in the staircase. In case of fire there must be room for emergency exit in the staircase. That rule is probably international as we have it here in Sweden to (applyes even to shoes and other loose parts), and it sounds like a wise rule to have. But in your apartment you must be allowed to have as many bicycles you want. OK with a law saying NO DYNAMITE IN THE APARTMENT but bicycles...No take your bicycle inside your apartment, and if someone have a problem with that, let them come up with a good explanation before buying it. And check with some organisation which see to tenants rights. I would never accept souch a rule as a prohibition for bikes in apartments sounds crazy and something a cheap landlord would pull to "save" the wallpaper in apartments and staircase for so long time possible. Soon they will try to forbid large objects in apartments for the same reason.

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Sadly, when I picked up my wheel today (dropped off to get trued), they informed me that the wheel had been pretty severly bent. They "fixed" it, but it still has a little bit of hop to it. The LBS recommended a rebuild soon, harvesting only my hub

Looks like this will be a bit more costly than initially anticipated. If I were to take this claim to the building manager though, I don't know what proof I would have that this damage was caused in the bike room, and not self-inflicted. I'm not even positive myself!


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The landlord can make the rules that NO bikes are allowed. You signed a lease that stated this provision and he can make things difficult for you. Trust me. In Manhattan, bikes are locked outside for this reason and many people ride junkers so that crooks will leave them alone. I see this all the time. Bikes are not allowed in many apartments in NYC.

The same thing happens for people who have dogs and cats. Landlords don't want them since they destroy the building. Be carreful with who you pick fights with since there will come a time to renew that lease at some point.

Another alternative is a folding bike. I have several folders and they go into the closet. I can seak them inside with a bag covering them. They are not the best bikes in the world but they are allowed in apartments.

I would never put a $1000 + bike in the basement. Your asking for trouble.
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you have to work fast on this one, check with the local Building code in your area, if the bike thing is silent or there is nothing about bikes being dissallowed in the building, that means you can bring your bike inside your apt. and be sure to have a copy of the building code handy when you confront your super about the damage on your bike, then you can show him the receipt and demand for a refund of the expenses that you have incurred, or don't demand for the refund of the expenses, because as one member said your lease will be up for renewal, and the super might make it hard for you to renew your lease. or you can make a mountain out of a molehill and fight all the way to court and sue him/her for the big bucks/ or if your on a power trip because you have driven your point you can just rub it in his face
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The landlord can make the rules that NO bikes are allowed. You signed a lease that stated this provision and he can make things difficult for you. Trust me. ...

The same thing happens for people who have dogs and cats. Landlords don't want them since they destroy the building. Be carreful with who you pick fights with since there will come a time to renew that lease at some point.
In short, I'd tell the landlord to f*ck off if he wants argue the toss. I'd be finding another place if I didn't get what I wanted from that one. There are plenty of other landlords around.
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I notice you live in Chicago, just like me. I live in the highest residence building in the world located in downtown Chicago, and we are allowed to take our bikes up to our apartments. Of course, since this is a snooty, uptight building, they make us transfer our bikes after the first checkpoint on the 44th floor to the freight elevators, and from there, we take our bikes to our condos. If these people allow us to take bikes on elevators up to our condos, there's no way that cock and bull story about being against fire codes will be true. It sounds like they just don't want you to take your bike on the elevators.

What you might consider is seeing if there are other apartment buildings nearby that have better bike rooms. Perhaps for a small fee, you can store your bike in their rooms instead. Where I live, there is a great bike room. I pay up the whazoo, but they gave me a key to the bike room and an extremely secure spot to put my bike. So no more hauling my bike up and down the stairs!

Hey, if you live downtown, I'm happy to give you the name of my place, and you can give them a call. For the peace of mind for your new bike, it would be worth giving them a call. Send me a PM, and I'll get in contact with you.

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You must have signed a contract when you got the apartment. Check your copy for this kind of rules. If itīs not on the contract, dont obey without checking with some organisation which see to tenants rights.

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it is a hassle if you live in the Hancock or 3660 N LSD, Presidential Plaza or any of the high rises on Lakeview, Lincoln Park West or the inner drive...... I used to live @ 30 E Cedar St and i knew the doormen and brought my bike upstairs. i've also kept bikes in those non-heated boxes they call storage...

i'd always made friends with the doormen. they'd let you slip on things.....yes, it is a hassle. you can leave the zurich at my place in the suburbs during the winter (hope it is a 57cm) hahaha
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you can leave the zurich at my place in the suburbs during the winter (hope it is a 57cm) hahaha
LOL, it is a 57, but not a Zurich
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