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Old 07-01-05, 02:10 PM   #1
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bikes of China

Anyone know about Bikes made in China.

I was looking at one make called Phoenix. Big heavy and WAY COOL! The Farm Model in green.

http://bikechina.com/p-phoenix.html

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Old 07-01-05, 02:23 PM   #2
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rod brakes - cool.
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It's been years since I've seen one in person but they look similar to Flying Pigeons. http://www.beijingscene.com/v07i002/ayi.html
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Phoenix and Flying Pigeons seem to be the two most common bicycles in China. They also seem to be incredibly common throughout parts of Africa as they are built like tanks.
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Anyone know about Bikes made in China. I was looking at one make called Phoenix. Big heavy and WAY COOL! The Farm Model in green.
--- In the end, after the oil is depleted, and after the total ecological destruction of the oil wars, the ultimate survivors will include those Chinese bikes with the rod brakes.
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Old 07-01-05, 11:10 PM   #6
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they say they are available here but don't even list a web site?
You email the site and they get back to you. (Over night)
I think I need one.
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Peter Snow Cao sent me this reply.

"You can order one from Bike China. The bike will have to be air shipped
because the post office will not ship anything that big. The cost will
be between US$375-475 depending on the model and the location you want
it shipped to. Delivery is about three weeks. The options can be seen
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http://bikechina.com/p-phoenix.html

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Old 07-02-05, 12:07 AM   #7
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Nothin' against the Chinese, but for "$375-475," you can do a LOT better.
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Ohmy. $375? I'm in China right now - you know you can get one of those used for $20. These guys are making a killing. I was going to buy one and bring it back - but the lack of gears would make biking around Berkeley a pain.
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I wouldn't buy one simply because it's made in China. I avoid buying things made in China whenever possible.
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I wouldn't buy one simply because it's made in China. I avoid buying things made in China whenever possible.
That must make your life expensive and complicated. Why?
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I avoid buying things made in China whenever possible.
cool. just like the way i avoid buying things made in the united states whenever possible. probably for similar reasons.
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Check out the size of the bell !!!

Anyone tried rod brakes before? Do they have any advantages that overcome their weight?
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They are built like a battle ship. I was thinking of using one for a cargo bike.
I think rod breaks don't work as good as other breaks.


The price inclues air freight.
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Nothin' against the Chinese, but for "$375-475," you can do a LOT better.
That's almost all shipping costs. I think we paid about $300 for our 3.7kg tandem frame to be shipped by air. The only economical thing to do is become a distributor. Figure $3-4K for a container, but you can probably fit 50 or so bikes in it. Ooops, I just checked my math, and you'd need a 40ft container, not a 20', in order to have any hope of a realistic unit cost. Just offer them as an "Exlusive, limited edition luxury bicycle" and you'll get some suckers payer $1200 each for them from Hammacher Schlemmer.
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With the Chinese making most, if not all, of the *mart & *get bikes
along with many name brands it strikes me as very strange that
these two utility bikes are not imported. These are excatly the
type of bikes that are missing from the mix here in North America.

I know that while I don't like Chinese stuff that much I'd sure give
these a good look. The Dutch won't market in the U.S. due to the
danger of lawsuits and as far as I know the Chinese have the only
true utility type bikes that could compete so that leaves the market
open to the Chinese alone. The only American made bike that
would come close the the "Farmer" model is a "Worksman"
and they are very heavy bikes. Bullet proof but heavy.

Like it or not utility bikes came first with race bikes as an outgrowth.
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Old 07-29-05, 09:07 AM   #16
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A little late to the thread, but I found this article on the biking industry in China
http://www.thestandard.com.hk/stdn/s.../GE09Ad04.html

This is another article on the Flying Pigeon
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine...8/b3900077.htm

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I have ridden a flying Pigeon in Guanghzhou and Beijing in the 1980's. Trying to ride in all that bicycle traffic, where there were few traffic rules, was almost as frightening as riding in heavy car traffic in a big city.

The one traffic rule was based on the law of the jungle, the biggest vehicle has the right of way. Most dangerous were cars turning right, in front of you. You would get no warning -no thats not true, they would honk their horns, but they honked ALL the time-they would just swerve in front of you and you would have to take evasive action.

I remember a Norwegian fellow in Beijing who got so tired of this, that one time, he decided not to move and he ended up ramming a taxi in the side when the taxi suddenly turned right.

All hell broke loose, as he was faced with an enraged taxi driver and a crowd of onlookers, all gesticulating and talking to him in Chinese. A policeman was summoned, but he couldn't speak English either. He realized they wanted him to surrender his passport and accompany the policeman to the station, but he stood his ground. He eventually gave them his hotel address and his passport number and they let him go.
When he told the story at the beer garden in the Beijing friendship store, he was grinning as he was planning to leave the country the next day. I wonder if he managed to leave or if he is languishing in a Chinese prison somewhere.

I had a friend who brought an Indian one speed bike back, and rode it as a commuter. He eventually sold it as he said he didn't think he could fix a flat because he couldn't get the rear tire off. This struck me as strange as he was a bike mechanic.

Kronan cycles were importing big heavy ugly one speed utility cycles in North America a few years ago, but I don't know if they are still going. I never saw any here, though they are common in Amsterdam-where it is dead flat.
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