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Old 07-06-05, 11:04 PM   #1
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My 21 speed CCM Riptide mountain bike which is 6 years it is a cromoly seat pole only frame which weighs about 38lbs front forks steel and handle bars and stem.
Rigada wheels
steel hubs
Dotek cranks chain rings warped
Shimano 7SIS rear derailer
Shimano front derailler
warped cassette 7 speed need new one
S-ram grip shift shifters
Chain needs to be replaced about 4000 miles on it clicking noise.
I thought to upgrade and fix the bike is it a good idea?
parts needed
New cassette Shimano 7 speed $30
New chain Shimano HG 30
Shimano Deore LX 510 rear hub 20
Bontrager triple cranks $ 60 or Shimano DeoreLX Chain wheel triple crankset $100
Deore front rear derailer used 60
Total cost of upgrade $200
I thought getting rid of some weight in the back would lessen the bikes weight pretty heavy in the back.
But at the bike shop they told me the stem and bars weigh a ton in the front but i disagree most of the weight i feel is in the middle and back tire. Most guys in the bike shop laugh and say buy a new bike like the Rock Giant but that frame is Steel just like mine. If i move up to the Giant Boulder i get aluminum frame and a lighter front end but the parts maybe little less inferior then my list above.
I looked at the Specialized model hybrids nice but the price range of 600 to 900 is to much for the 3 months of riding i do. Does anyone suggest anything else or should i buy a used bike for the price i want to upgrade with.
If i did upgrade with the parts listed would my bike ride better then originally bought new. With slick tires the bike may run smoother and quicker than the high knoob tires i have on.

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Old 07-07-05, 12:27 AM   #2
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Any bike in a bike shop--even the steel ones--will be significantly lighter and better made. A steel Giant Boulder weighs in at about 28lbs. The aluminum ones are around 26.5lbs best I can recall. Don't waste your money upgrading a dept. store bike... the components are low quality and it will just be a money pit for you. If you buy a Giant Boulder or Boulder SE for $299(us) it will be a far better bike for you in the long run.

You basically created a list of random parts, and you didn't take into account the labor to build the wheel on the hub, new bottom bracket and all the other labor prices. You will be well over the cost of a Boulder by the time its all said and done.
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Any bike in a bike shop--even the steel ones--will be significantly lighter and better made. A steel Giant Boulder weighs in at about 28lbs. The aluminum ones are around 26.5lbs best I can recall. Don't waste your money upgrading a dept. store bike... the components are low quality and it will just be a money pit for you. If you buy a Giant Boulder or Boulder SE for $299(us) it will be a far better bike for you in the long run.

You basically created a list of random parts, and you didn't take into account the labor to build the wheel on the hub, new bottom bracket and all the other labor prices. You will be well over the cost of a Boulder by the time its all said and done.

What he said.
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The Giant boulder that i looked at was a 2004 model without shock forks. What would the price that is fair, there selling it for $380can? Can i get it it for the price of the Giant Rock which has shocks but has a steel frame $320can. I don't really care for shocks forks are okay. But once again i disagree my CCM is underated i looked at a Giant back in 1999 and it had the same characteristics frame and parts and was 100 bucks more expensive, do i need to pay more for a name brand.
I looked at a used Giant Boulder 1996 model it is exactly the same in parts as my CCM except for the cranks the Dotek cranks are small and help for up hill ride some people even prefer them to the Giant made cranks or TY33 Shimano.
Look at the 2005 boulder and see if the parts are very good or a big difference to my CCM exluding the frame.
frameSupersized ALUXX butted aluminum
forkHi tensile steel, 1 1/8"
derailleurFront: Shimano C-102, Rear: Shimano Altus
derailleurshiftersShimano EF-29, 7-speed
cranksShimano TY33, 28/38/48T
pedalsSteel w/ resin body
handlebarSteel 1.25" riser
stemAlloy 1 1/8 Ahead
headsetAhead 1 1/8"
brakesAlloy direct pull w/ power control
saddleGiant Groove Plus, Variable Density MTB with Kevlar bumpers
seatpostAlloy micro-adjust, 30.8, QR Seat lever
rimsAlloy, 36H, black w/ brushed sidewall
hubsAlloy, 36H, QR, double seals
tiresMTB knobby w/ center ridge 26x2.1
cassetteShimano 14-34T, 7-speed MegaRange
spokesStainless Steel 14G
additionalChainguard
I feel if i paid 400 with taxes to this bike and had my CCM laying around collecting dust i couldn't feel good riding the Giant. Or should i say safe, my 6year CCM people wouldn't want to steal it, if a leave it unattended for a little while, which is great for me no worrys. When people see the brand name Giant they think they got some decent bike they can use to steal parts. In fact Giant boulders in parts is really not that great and your bike maybe more supseptable to be taken especially when new. Thats why i love the CCM the 20" frame suits me well but the weight is getting a little bit of a problem. When i got the CCM new i felt i could ride anywhere and everywhere except going up big hills. Look at the freedom i have with the CCM i lock it sometimes so no joy rider would take it because there tired to walk home in the heat. But most of the time i can leave it unattended and nobody wants to take it, because of the stigma it is a department store brand. I've seen the recovery bikes at the police station lockup there must be hundreds of bikes there all stolen. Each brand Giant, or Kona, Ridley Crossbow, Mongoose, Raleigh and nobody wants to claim them most go to auction.
So in 6 years after buying the Giant Boulder i go to the bike shop asking to replace my worn chain and other parts they will tell me to buy another low level bike because it will have carbon fiber stem or bars seat post etc.....for a little extra you will have a better bike and will cost less to replace parts on the old bike.
I did the math on how much it cost me to ride a bike versus taking the car.
Bike use 3 months in the year 8 times a month riding
Bike cost $400 over life of bike 6 years without repairs.
$66.66 per year or $22.22per month or $2.77 per ride 8 times a month.
or 13.3km per trip equals to 20 cents per km of riding.
The car just gas excluding insurance and normal costs of repairs.
V6 city driving 15 liters to 100km of driving at .80 cents a liter equals to 12 cents per km driven
So taken the bike out riding thinking it will save me some money on gas think again.
At least my CCM from new to the cost of repairs cost $1.38 a trip over 10 year span.
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