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Old 07-07-05, 12:01 PM   #1
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Riding without a seat post

Something recently happen to my seat tube that won't allow me to put my shim, so I can not use my seat post until a new one arrives. It is also on my beater, so I do not want to start taking my nice bike out into questionable areas, thus I ride it without the seat post. Here is my question. Is riding without a seat post harmful? I know if I ride to low, my knees are damaged, but what about riding to high which is next to what I am doing?

I realize that it takes a lot of work to ride without a seat post, so I might do it for training purpose, but only if its not bad on my knees, legs, groin what have you.

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Old 07-07-05, 12:12 PM   #2
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Something recently happen to my seat tube that won't allow me to put my shim, so I can not use my seat post until a new one arrives. It is also on my beater, so I do not want to start taking my nice bike out into questionable areas, thus I ride it without the seat post. Here is my question. Is riding without a seat post harmful? I know if I ride to low, my knees are damaged, but what about riding to high which is next to what I am doing?

I realize that it takes a lot of work to ride without a seat post, so I might do it for training purpose, but only if its not bad on my knees, legs, groin what have you.

Thanks for your responses.
Without a seat post? Sooo, using my powers of reasoning you have no saddle on that thing either.

Umm, ok, riding too low, are you sitting on the top tube? Not recommended.

Riding too high..? So I guess you're standing? Better....possible......tiring though.

What happened to your seat tube that does not allow you to use the existing seat post you have now?

I'm a tad confused here, can you explain more please?

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Old 07-07-05, 12:18 PM   #3
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but only if its not bad on my knees, legs, groin what have you.



The first time something unpredictable happens that might drop you to where your seat should be, you will find landing on metal tubing to probably be painful, and very bad for the "legs, groin..." and especially the "what have you" Also, crashing out on a bike with no seat sounds like no fun either. You may need to have it surgicaly removed ("yes, doctor... but will he ever play piano again?")

Also, not sure what the top of your seat tube ends in (pointed lugs, unfinished edges, QR's, etc) but some of those are sharp. Also, if you have a seat quick release, those can do a considerable amount of damage too.

So its your call. if you value your thighs and "what have you", I'd get a seat back on that thing before going anywhere.
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There are those who reccomend seatless riding as a training technique, but you want to be careful. I'd do it for very limited amounts of time, and try to maintain a decent standing position and technique. "Dancing on the pedals", as they used to say.

After all, 10-year old kids do it all the time....
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There are those who reccomend seatless riding as a training technique, but you want to be careful. I'd do it for very limited amounts of time, and try to maintain a decent standing position and technique. "Dancing on the pedals", as they used to say.

After all, 10-year old kids do it all the time....

I've heard of riding seatless by dropping the seat all the way down and standing for the duration of the ride to build quads (or gain technical skill on a mtb), but I've never heard of removing seat and seatpost. I still think its a poor idea, but hey, its not my nads on the line here

my 7-year old fell off of the roof of a shed a few weeks ago (about 8 feet). Thats certainly not an endorsement for me to go out and try it
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Wow. And I thought forgetting to unclip after stopping was a bad thing. Be careful where you dance.
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If were just talking about a very low seat, half the freeride world rides around with the seat slammed all the way down anyways. It's a good way to work on technical skills, especially if you are on platform pedals. I have gone on somewhat long rides with the seat low. It's not the most efficient position for sure, and can be hard on the knees, so stand up to pedal, sit down to coast.
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Wait a minute...
Why can't you just get a cheap, correctly sized seapost??
I don't get it.
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A seat post was purchased for my tube. It was thought to be a 27.2 mm when it really is a 28.6 mm. Now, instead of getting the right size. A genius thought it would be ok if you tighten the shim really tight, but the 27.2 m seat post could not sustain the height with any load thus the person tired to put back the original seat post, but the tube has been slighly deformed, so that the 28.2mm is not a little bit too big, thus we are getting a shim from Nashbar that allows one to fit a 27.2 mm seat post in anything seat tube up to 30.4 mm. That is the detail.

Now, I have another question.

Would it be better to just have the seat post drop down to the tube with the 27.2 mm seatpost, so that in the case of an accident or something I will not be impaled?

Thanks.
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......thus I ride it without the seat post. Here is my question. Is riding without a seat post harmful?
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Would it be better to just have the seat post drop down to the tube with the 27.2 mm seatpost, so that in the case of an accident or something I will not be impaled?
unless you dig pain, that would indeed be a better idea.
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Would it be better to just have the seat post drop down to the tube with the 27.2 mm seatpost, so that in the case of an accident or something I will not be impaled?

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A seat post was purchased for my tube. It was thought to be a 27.2 mm when it really is a 28.6 mm. Now, instead of getting the right size. A genius thought it would be ok if you tighten the shim really tight, but the 27.2 m seat post could not sustain the height with any load thus the person tired to put back the original seat post, but the tube has been slighly deformed, so that the 28.2mm is not a little bit too big, thus we are getting a shim from Nashbar that allows one to fit a 27.2 mm seat post in anything seat tube up to 30.4 mm. That is the detail..
AH! Well, that guy is a twit.


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Now, I have another question.

Would it be better to just have the seat post drop down to the tube with the 27.2 mm seatpost, so that in the case of an accident or something I will not be impaled?

Thanks.
Most certainly! But if the tube is now deformed you won't be able to tighten the seat post I assume? Yer seat will move around a bit. Not possible to buy a shim somewhere instead of waiting for it through the mail?
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I think the proper term is GOOSED. Just wait for the part to come in.
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Wow, its been a month since my seat post has been missing, but now, its all fixed.
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