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Anders K 07-25-02 10:51 AM

To service or not to service
 
What kind of service do you do yourself?
What kind of service do you let lbs handle?
Iīm thinking of wheel truing, brake and mech adjustings, bottom bracket removal and install, hub maintenance and so on.

Anders K

lotek 07-25-02 11:21 AM

I've come to the conclusion that I really don't
want to be dependent on anyone when it comes
to the bike. Alot of what helped is building a bike
from the frame up.
The hardest part has been getting started, and
that was more of a "I don't think I can do this"
kind of thing.
A good repair manual, some google searches, and
of course Bike Forums generally get all the answers
I'll ever need.
So, yeah I'll be doing all maintenance.

Marty

Maelstrom 07-25-02 11:58 AM

Truing of wheels, changing of hubs and bottom brackets (for now) and suspension upkeep. Everything else I do on my own. Those things I don't do only because I don't have the tools.

VegasCyclist 07-25-02 11:59 AM

since I built both of my bikes I pretty much do it all, (although how well I do it is another quesiton :p)

I guess this is unrelated but when I ride and I see a broken down cyclist (walking a bike) I always stop and offer help.

diamondback 07-25-02 12:00 PM

Everyone has different gifts and talents. I'm satisfied that I may never get that last perfect tweak adjustment on a tuneup myself, but the guy at the bikeshop can. More than anyone. I'm happy to do some things like adjustments and tires etc.. but if it gets complicated or I want the perfect adjustment. It's better to pay the 10 bucks. The bikeshop guy wouldn't do my job well, and I wouldn't do his job well. Even bike mechanics gotta make a living.

dirtbikedude 07-25-02 12:42 PM

I started doing work on my own bikes years ago when I realized that no matter how good the LBS mechanic is they never get the bike just right ( I am very picky about seat angle, bar angle, the amount of play in the brake levers, etc, etc, etc). So now I do all my own work.
Slainte:beer:
Matt

Anders K 07-25-02 03:52 PM

It looks like we have an even spread at the do-it-yourself alternatives, so far no one have voted non. Several even helps other, thatīs good:)

My self, I donīt true wheels (not yet), donīt quiet have the knowledge but will try in the future to build a wheel. Must get myself a truing stand first. I donīt press headsets in place, have no tools for that. Otherwise I do everything on my bike myself:) OOh, I donīt weld either, hope it donīt comes to that...

Anders K

vlad 07-25-02 04:05 PM

I do all possible maintenance on my bike

-replace spokes
-true the wheels
-pack the bearings with grease
-lube the chain and cables
-adjust the brakes
-adjust front and rear derailleurs

I bought a copy of Bicycling Magazine's Complete Guide to Bicycle Maintenance and Repair. It is well worth price.


see my posts Bike Mechanics forum:
-Demount/mount solid tires
-Replace spokes w/out demounting solid tire
-Truing/aligning wheel

Truing the wheel is much easier than I expected. I turn the bike upside down, put one hand on a brake, hold my thumb near the rim and spin the rim to feel where it touches my thumb. etc

if it was complicated would I be able to do it?

FROryder 07-25-02 07:33 PM

Everything but headset replacement, cannot see myself purchasing headset tools that may be used only once every five years.
-Build and true wheels.
-Adjust and repack all bearings.
-BBs
-Brake, gear set-up
I would love to build my own frame but that would take some serious investment in time and money. If there was a frame building school in my area I definitely investigate the possibility.
Cheers

:D

Louis 07-25-02 08:34 PM

I do everything except serious wheel truing. I'm very picky about adjustments and prefer my own touch.

I have helped many riders with on-road repairs on club rides.

cyclezealot 07-26-02 12:45 AM

I very much trust my LBS mechanic. At this time of life, I have no time to think about learing bike maintenance.. Eventually, yes.!
So my question. Someone please give me your advice.
He takes really great care of my bikes. My oldest bike has at least 60,000 miles on it... It runs well. It has been pretty much rebuilt. I keep it up to take on the planes, so they can have at my old bike; when some flunky baggage loader decides he hates cyclists..
Anyway- my question. My main and best bike is a 2000 Klein with Ultegra compentry. I let my bike mechanic look at it. He says- As I heard- Klein's are made so well; he really does not have much to do in terms of annual maintenance. !!! I ride 3 bikes equally; so the Klein gets about 3,000 miles a year on it.
So is it true sealed bearing in Klein's bottom bracket, et al, wear so well ; that if anything goes wrong with any given component, I willl know ?? Says, there is no grease to be added anually,- etc..
I am very fussy about my bikes. Do you all find, the way fairly expensive bikes are now built, there is little to do with annual maintenance ?? Thats' what I think I hear from my mechanic.

velocipedio 07-26-02 05:45 AM

Like cyclezealot, I trust my wrench implicitly. I always bring my bikes in for a preseason tune-up.

On the other hand, I do most of everything else myself [except for headset installation and maintenance]. For me, working on my bikes is part of the pleasure of owning them.

In fact, this week, I'll be doing and almost-complete rebuild of my cyclocross bike. Gonna be fun!

cyclezealot 07-26-02 06:03 AM

Like Veliocepidio. I am fussy about my bike. Fussy enough, I should do it all myself. until I do, I have them checked out by my trusted wrench, each Spring. Id I were to do my own bike- maintenance wise- Bike would consume all my life, instead of most of my free time..

Richard D 07-29-02 08:11 AM

I said most - fitting new brakes (not just blocks), replacing cables, upgrading shifters and mechs, stems, saddles etc. are fine, but I haven't tried anything major like wheel truing.

a2psyklnut 07-29-02 08:22 AM

Well, I am a mechanic, albeit part-time. So, obviously, I fix all my own things(four bikes). I also maintain my wife's bike(s), that's another 3! Then I take care of my in-laws, another 2. And also, my brother in-law's(2), and his girlfriend's(1) another 3 total. Plus, I always stop and help anyone out on the trail/road.

Fortunately, most of the bikes I maintain, are quality bikes. Except of course for my mother-in-law's Huffy Cruiser that she rides around the neighborhood! So, it's not a full time process.

Did I forget to mention my riding buddy's bikes, and the neighbor's bikes, and the neighbor of my riding buddy, and my co-workers, and the neighborhood kids, and, and, and.......

I don't mind, I love working on bikes! It's what I do!

L8R

Anders K 07-29-02 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by a2psyklnut
Well, I am a mechanic, albeit part-time. So, obviously, I fix all my own things(four bikes). I also maintain my wife's bike(s), that's another 3! Then I take care of my in-laws, another 2. And also, my brother in-law's(2), and his girlfriend's(1) another 3 total. Plus, I always stop and help anyone out on the trail/road.

Fortunately, most of the bikes I maintain, are quality bikes. Except of course for my mother-in-law's Huffy Cruiser that she rides around the neighborhood! So, it's not a full time process.

Did I forget to mention my riding buddy's bikes, and the neighbor's bikes, and the neighbor of my riding buddy, and my co-workers, and the neighborhood kids, and, and, and.......

I don't mind, I love working on bikes! It's what I do!

L8R

Sounds like you have found your place in life:p

Anders K

webist 07-29-02 01:18 PM

So far, I have the books to tell me what I should do and how to do it. I've acquired only a few of the tools necessary to do any of it.

LBS is nearby though.

Carl

WoodyUpstate 07-29-02 06:15 PM

I do it all. I'm too impatient to wait for the LBS, and worried they'll mess it up worse than me. And I'm cheap.

Building my own wheels has given me particular satisfaction.

John E 07-29-02 08:11 PM

I worked part-time at a couple of bike shops while attending UCLA. I have the tools and the expertise and enjoy doing all of my own mechanical work, but I do admit to being in a time squeeze. I avoid offering to fix bikes for friends, because my own family's dozen bikes keep me busy enough.

Dutchy 07-29-02 11:27 PM

I try to do all my own servicing except for wheel truing and headset work. Even then there are limitations to what I can do.
A friend wanted his MTB serviced and asked could I do it. I said no problems. Two weeks later he brings his frame over and a bucket. In the bucket was EVERY nut and bolt off his bike including handlebars, headset, handle grips, front derailleur, rear derailleur, brake levers, brakes, forks. He had decided to give it a go himself and had completely stripped the bike except for the cranks. I took one look and said forget it. The fact that the derailleur's and forks were removed was enough of a headache, he also forgot to bring his wheels.

I then had to explain to him that a bike is like a car. Servicing is one thing but rebuilding is another. Imagine going to get your car serviced and taking all the parts to the dealer in a trailer and saying, service this!

He took it to a shop and was charged a reasonable price of $140.00AUD, they had the bike for a week.

His wife wasn't happy as she is a penny-pincher, and couldn't understand why I didn't want to do it.

CHEERS.

Mark

Hunter 07-30-02 07:20 AM

I voted everything +. I am a shop owner so i work onall kinds of bikes and um well......


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