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Old 07-27-05, 02:18 PM   #1
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here's yet another rant from saturnsc2. it seems like i'm doing a lot of that here lately eh? anyway it annoys me to kingdom come to see how bicycles are just abused. i'm a person who will spend a day polishing every spoke, & every piece of metal on my bike. i wax all the paint & use armor all on the rubber parts. i'm a detailing freak. nothing's to good for my babies. anyway, i see people just throw their bikes down even though they have a kickstand. i see bikes standing in the rain all rusty. bikes just smashed together on carrying racks all banged up. i see people pickup bikes & throw them over fences. i know that a lot of these bikes might be just cheap ones, but they still are nice when they were new. why treat them in this fashion? anybody else annoyed by this too? it almost gets to me as much as idiot drivers do...
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I felt the same way when the idiots on Monster Garage cut a 64 Lincoln in half to make it a desert racer. More aggravating was all the parts they just ripped out and threw away. AHHHHHHHHHH! That'll teach me not to channel surf!
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I felt the same way when the idiots on Monster Garage cut a 64 Lincoln in half to make it a desert racer. More aggravating was all the parts they just ripped out and threw away. AHHHHHHHHHH! That'll teach me not to channel surf!
especially if it wss a nice car, a classic. bike abuse almost reminds me of animal abuse, i despise both & hate the people who perform these hideous actions....
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i see people just throw their bikes down even though they have a kickstand. i see bikes standing in the rain all rusty. bikes just smashed together on carrying racks all banged up. i see people pickup bikes & throw them over fences.
Some of these bikes last a lifetime.
Many bikes get worse damage from crashes, which they will see in a lifetime.
I keep my bike mechanically clean (clean & lubed drive chain, bearings, hubs, brakes in good order, etc.) but not always aesthetically clean (scratches, dirt, grime, etc.)

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Some of these bikes last a lifetime.
Many bikes get worse damage from crashes, which they will see in a lifetime.
I keep my bike mechanically clean (clean & lubed drive chain, bearings, hubs, brakes in good order, etc.) but not always aesthetically clean (scratches, dirt, grime, etc.)

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ya, i'm a perfectionist what can i say. keeping your bike mechanically sound is a job in it's own too which i also do, but it just makes no sense to see a person just let his bike fall down when they have a kickstand! as far as those bike racks go, most of them are of bad design as they just let the bikes hit each other & also the car causing nicks, scratches, ect. the only way i would transport a bike is if i had a van where i could put it inside. you also got to take into consideration is flying debris on the freeway. it would suck to see stone ships on the bike's frame. there bad enough on the front of my car!
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Different people want different things from their bikes. To me, a bike is a tool that lets me do stuff.

Nicks and scrathes don't damage the underlying functionality of a bike. And if the underlying functionality is important, who cares what it looks like? My mountain bike has been strapped onto bus tops in Ghana and left for a week in the rain in Chile when I've been off hiking. Is it scratched up? Sure. Is it in great mechanical condition? Sure.

> the only way i would transport a bike is if i had a van where i could put it inside.

If you're going to let transport conditions stop you from moving your bike around, you're really limiting your riding experiences.

Edit: It occurs to me that you must be talking about road bikes or something. I can't imagine anyone who commutes, mountain bikes, or tours regularly could really be that obsessive about appearances.

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Different people want different things from their bikes. To me, a bike is a tool that lets me do stuff.

Nicks and scrathes don't damage the underlying functionality of a bike. And if the underlying functionality is important, who cares what it looks like? My mountain bike has been strapped onto bus tops in Ghana and left for a week in the rain in Chile when I've been off hiking. Is it scratched up? Sure. Is it in great mechanical condition? Sure.

> the only way i would transport a bike is if i had a van where i could put it inside.

If you're going to let transport conditions stop you from moving your bike around, you're really limiting your riding experiences.

Edit: It occurs to me that you must be talking about road bikes or something. I can't imagine anyone who commutes, mountain bikes, or tours regularly could really be that obsessive about appearances.
I really don't have much to add to this, but needed to point out that I agree strongly.
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Nicks and scrathes don't damage the underlying functionality of a bike. And if the underlying functionality is important, who cares what it looks like?....
A bike with no scratches, dents or rust is a bike that hasn't lived yet. Hasn't earned its battlescars. Has no character.
I protect my bike to the extent needed to keep it in good working order. Wipe it down after a ride when it gets wet or muddy, lube the drivetrain, keep the tires pumped, etc. If you get obssesive about it, the bike becomes a fetish instead of a tool. That'll suck the fun out of riding real fast.
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May not be a smart thing to do,but it is their bike and I really don't care what they do with it.
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Oh, I'm with you! I'm very nit-picky about my (ahem) MOUNTAIN bike. I clean and lube the drive train after every ride. I wash and wax it as well. Granted, it has nicks and chips but I've got touch up paint, too! I paid way too much to let it rot. Gotta love that bike!
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I tend to be more worried about the mechanical aspects of my bikes. I do ride in most all weather and they do get dirty. I do hate to see bikes (of any kind) neglected. I was at UCF awhile back and was amazed at the number of bikes locked to bike racks that had obviously been there a long time. There were a few vintage makes I would have loved to "rescue"!
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Different people want different things from their bikes. To me, a bike is a tool that lets me do stuff.

Nicks and scrathes don't damage the underlying functionality of a bike. And if the underlying functionality is important, who cares what it looks like? My mountain bike has been strapped onto bus tops in Ghana and left for a week in the rain in Chile when I've been off hiking. Is it scratched up? Sure. Is it in great mechanical condition? Sure.

> the only way i would transport a bike is if i had a van where i could put it inside.

If you're going to let transport conditions stop you from moving your bike around, you're really limiting your riding experiences.

Edit: It occurs to me that you must be talking about road bikes or something. I can't imagine anyone who commutes, mountain bikes, or tours regularly could really be that obsessive about appearances.
well, then you don't know me. actually one is a mountain bike & the other is an old road bike. i'm just that way period. i'm depressed for a month when a new stone chip appears on my car. what can i say, that's just the way i am. i wish i could change that, i think life would be a lot less stressful...

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Oh, I'm with you! I'm very nit-picky about my (ahem) MOUNTAIN bike. I clean and lube the drive train after every ride. I wash and wax it as well. Granted, it has nicks and chips but I've got touch up paint, too! I paid way too much to let it rot. Gotta love that bike!
yikes! another person like me! i didn't think you existed! i actually feel good about this post! everybody else is making me feel like a freak!

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My bike isn't very clean and has stcratches, etc. I keep it rust free, and lubed. It's good enough for me.
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ykies! another person like me! i didn't think you existed! i actually feel good about this post! everybody else is making me feel like a freak!
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I just spent the last hour cleaning my road bike

It's still far from spotless though- it's secondhand and from the 80s.
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well, then you don't know me. actually one is a mountain bike & the other is an old road bike. i'm just that way period. i'm depressed for a month when a new stone chip appears on my car. what can i say, that's just the way i am. i wish i could change that, i think life would be a lot less stressful...

Ackkk! Another one like ME!! Ask any one of my friends....I am verrry anal about my car, too! I was actually told to put my car in a glass case so that everybody can see it but not touch it !
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Ackkk! Another one like ME!! Ask any one of my friends....I am verrry anal about my car, too! I was actually told to put my car in a glass case so that everybody can see it but not touch it !
ye-haaa! rock & roll! lol! actualy people say something similer to me. they say i should shrink-wrap my car! bastards!
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Well, if it makes you feel any better, I just spent the last hour cleaning my road bike

It's still far from spotless though- it's secondhand and from the 80s.
very good my son! actually my old road bike is a 1982 & spotless! ha ha! i wouldn't have it no other way! it only takes you an hour to clean your bike? you must not have spoked rims or something...
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this thread is starting to go off course just like the jupiter 2. this thread was originally about people who really abuse their bikes. like people who just let them fall down when they have a kickstand--no reason for that. or about people who just don't take care of them at all. just the other day i seen a nice mountain bike laying in a field with a bent front wheel. it looks like it got ran over by a car. the rest of the bike looked to be in very good condition. the bike was just left there--that's abuse! i thought about "rescueing" it, but i already have 2 of my own. i don't think i could handle 2 more wheels that need their spokes polished! lol! i see a lot of bikes thrown away that seem to be nice. go figure...
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Spend more time riding and less time polishing.

As far as the MTB that looked thrown away - they don't usually take your bike with you to the emergency room...

I have a very pretty bike. It also has a lot of scars. I've been to busy riding it right now to bother with wiping it down after every ride. I'd be cleaning her 3 or 4 times a day. There has to be a point where you're bike is your ride, and not some pretty thing...

And, yeah, I've thrown her over fences, left her out in snow, smashed her into the ground (along with me) at 20mph... She still rides nicer than any other bike I've ridden.
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[QUOTE=HereNT]Spend more time riding and less time polishing. WHAAAAAT!!
As far as the MTB that looked thrown away - they don't usually take your bike with you to the emergency room... WELL...I DON'T KNOW REALLY WHAT HAPPENED TO IT. THAT WAS JUST MY GUESS.

I have a very pretty bike. It also has a lot of scars. I've been to busy riding it right now to bother with wiping it down after every ride. I'd be cleaning her 3 or 4 times a day. There has to be a point where you're bike is your ride, and not some pretty thing... MY BIKES HAVE SENTIMENTAL VALUE I GUESS. ESPECIALLY THE 1982 ROAD BIKE. I BOUGHT IT BRAND NEW & IT'S PART OF MY LIFE...

And, yeah, I've thrown her over fences, left her out in snow, smashed her into the ground (along with me) at 20mph... She still rides nicer than any other bike I've ridden. I HATE YOU

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In 1993 I bought a rigid hardtail GT (back when they WERE GTs) and the same year my nephew won a bike at the raffle booth I worked at. This year, when I decided to ride again, I pulled down the GT and dusted it off a little. LBS checked it out and said no adjustments were needed, tires were still good (yes, you read that right) and he lubed it. Then he asked if I even rode it at all (he sold the bike to me years ago). Asked my nephew about that old bike and he gave it to me (for my friends to use when they ride with me). I couldn't believe the difference! My bike looked new - no lie - and although the other bike was stored in a shed, it was rusty, out of adjustment, tires were cracked and rotted, seat cover separted, spokes and cables had corrosion, seals in BB leaking and steering tube had ooze. The funny thing is, my nephew tried to ride it but since it was too big, he just put it away. Took me 3 days to get that bike in decent condition.
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Unfortunately folks, some of us squeeze in a ride when we have precious time. We don't have hours to sit and polish every spoke. Some of you must have much more free time than I do. I try to take good care of my bike by making sure things are cleaned and oiled, but the bike is a tool, not a living human being. The bike left by the side of the road is purely littering and not "abused."
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I try to keep my bikes clean and cared for, although I do expect that since they're tools that are used, they're not going to remain pristine. I just try to take a decent amount of care. Although I got some laughs on a group ride when we were at a stop at a cafe and people were parking their bikes all over, I picked mine up and tossed it on a bed of lantana, saying "Oops, I dropped it". Didn't hurt the bike at all, and afterward it smelled like lantana - kinda nice.
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[QUOTE=saturnsc2]ye-haaa! rock & roll! lol! actualy people say something similer to me. they say i should shrink-wrap my car! bastards![/Q

I thought Saturns were made of shrink wrap or some such sort of plastic.
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