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    Puppy and Bike

    Silly question but I'm thinking about getting a dog in a few months but am worried about what a puppy might do to my bike. Anyone have experience with keeping a dog and a bike in an apartment? I don't want the dog to go chewing up my tires, etc.

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    You might have an issue with the puppy marking on the tires, but, I can assure you that the puppy will only chew through a tire ONCE !

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    Just curious, If your in an apartment and you ride alot do you have time for the responsibility of a dog? Will the dog be left alone for lots of time? That is when problems usually start. Dogs are pack animals and need lots of TLC. My dog needs walks daily and lots of play time. My kids do too lol ,, it leaves precious few hours for riding. I have to ride before leaving to work 4am ish. Good Luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Arrow
    Just curious, If your in an apartment and you ride alot do you have time for the responsibility of a dog? Will the dog be left alone for lots of time? That is when problems usually start. Dogs are pack animals and need lots of TLC. My dog needs walks daily and lots of play time. My kids do too lol ,, it leaves precious few hours for riding. I have to ride before leaving to work 4am ish. Good Luck
    I don't ride a lot. I consider myself lucky if I can put in 100 miles a week. Most of my evenings are spent in my apartment. I ride during the weekends and one or two week nights. I also have plans to practice frisbee with the dog (frisbee being my other major sport). I'm thinking about getting a collie since that's what I had as a kid and I remember them being fairly chill and not too energetic.

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    I have a rough collie and three bikes - she has never chewed on the bikes nor have any of my other dogs. Of course, I used a crate when they were puppies - they were in the crate when they were not being supervised. Puppies can quickly get themselves in trouble/danger. My collie is not an overly active dog - not like a golden or a lab - but she is very smart and as a puppy she would get very bored and then was a total wacko dog - so my point is that collies need to have their brains engaged - they are not just couch potatoes. I take my dog herding and to agility and I took her obedience classes with all collies.

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    I have two puppies (well, they WERE puppies) and they chewed on everything. Never touched the bike though.

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    When my Akita was a puppy she chewed on a lot of things, including the soft parts of my bike. I never realized how many plastic pieces there are on bike. She never really damaged anything, they just look chewed on. I kept her food and water in the basement, which was also where I kept the bike.

    Akitas have a reputation as hundred-pound termites. Some of the other things she chewed on included the dining room chairs, a downspout, the neighbor's fishpond, and numerous sofa cushions. She grew out of it at about a year.

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    Why don't you get a rack to hang the bike up out of reach?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SadieKate
    Why don't you get a rack to hang the bike up out of reach?
    There's a great idea!
    And I like your plan of playing frisbee. I've had two very active Australian Shepherds, who were wonderfully well-behaved sweethearts provided they got their frisbee fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dagna
    There's a great idea!
    And I like your plan of playing frisbee. I've had two very active Australian Shepherds, who were wonderfully well-behaved sweethearts provided they got their frisbee fix.

    Dagna
    Do you think collies would make okay frisbee dogs? Also, would a dog be able to keep up with you on a bike? I don't want to run my dog to death.

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    Bitter Apple is an excellent product to have around the house for the first year of a puppy's life. You can spray it on your bike, furniture, shoes...whatever you dont want the puppy to chew. I see that they sell it at most pet stores now.

    I also suggest getting plenty of "ok to chew" items for the pup. They gotta chew something. compressed rawhide is good....and you'll see all kinds of cute things at the store.

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    Crate train him, give him lots of one on one play time, have toys that are his(I like Kongs) and you should have no trouble.

    Be careful when taking your dog on rides. Most dogs are good at short sprints or slow trots but not extended activity at bike speed. In their effort to please you they will run to exhaustion and can injure themselves. So keep them short and slow. It does depend on the breed. My cattle dog can do ball/frisbee sprints all day, but is whipped after a three mile run(and I am not that fast) My husky never seems to tire however, when I was doing 10ks I would take him and as long as it was not to hot he was ahead of me the whole time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comatose51
    Do you think collies would make okay frisbee dogs? Also, would a dog be able to keep up with you on a bike? I don't want to run my dog to death.
    What kind of collie are you talking about? Border collie or Rough or Smooth collie? My rough collie would not make a good frisbee collie - and neither would most of the rough collies I have known - they are usually not all that go getter-ish - mine will grab a frisbee about 3-4 times before quitting. A border collie on the other hand, would make a great frisbee dog and so would aussies. Also - my collie WON't run to death - she just quits when she gets tired - she literally stops and sits and won't go. ALthough she will chase bikes for awhile (I don't let her - but she did it once and surprised me because she is rather lazy) and other things for awhile - herding instinct - but it doesn't last very long. I take her sheepherding - but even there we do farm chores because she will do lots of different activities - she quits if we just try to get them in a circle again and again. The same thing was true with agility - my dog loved doing agility but would only do the same course or piece of equipment 2-3 times and then she was finished - I had to keep changing things for her - she won't keep repeating things. I have taken several obedience classes (through local collie club) that were rough/smooth collie only and the common refrain was that they get bored with repetition and will simply stop. My favorite saying that the teacher used "Collies aren't golden retrievers". The smooth collies I have known have been slightly more intense in activities such as herding and agility.
    I had a husky mix who would run with me all day if I let her and also a houndy labby mix who can run and run (I rollerblade him 4-6 miles a day and he loves it - gets wacko without it). Collie will rollerblade with me about 1/2 mile to a mile and then she is just not going to do it any more.
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    I've got three dogs, all of whom love to run alongside the bike - there are several products made just for this. I can provide a little more info, if you want.

    We usually go from one to two miles, 5 to 15 mph, depending on the dog. Of course, we've only been doing this one to three times per week, and only for the last month, so the distances will probably go up with time, as everyone is already going twice as far as they were to begin with.

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    Border collies do make great frisbee dogs, but they require lots of exercise and attention or they get a little weird. Border collies are "scary smart" dogs and very high energy when young so if you don't keep them occupied they can be destructive too. It mostly depends on how much time you are willing to devote to the dog.

    Some breeds chew more than others, and individual dogs within a breed can vary quite a bit in how much chewing they do. My dog only destroyed a few things when he was young and seems pretty happy to chew on his many toys. I had a friend that had two puppies that destroyed his entire couch in less than an hour. So IMO it is impossible to say if the dog may chew on the bike. The hooks idea is probably the best.

    As far as riding with your dog, it just depends on the dog. As farrellcollie mentioned, some dogs just don't like it. Just try to be very aware of how the dog is doing. Some dogs will keep going as long as their "pack" is going, to the point of endangering their health. It is a lot easier to ride for an hour than to run for an hour. I would like to ride with my dog, but around here there aren't too many safe places to do it. He likes people so much that he is likely to pull me off the bike in an effort to get to a new person that may pet him.

    Dogs take a lot of work, but are very rewarding. My dog makes me laugh every day.
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    I used to work with a guy who had this awesome picture of his collie (lassie-type, dunno what the real breed name is) like 4 feet off the ground grabbing a frisbee in midair. So obviously they CAN be good frisbee dogs (after I saw the picture I found out that he and his dog actually enter competitions).

    I suspect it depends as much on the individual dog as on the breed. I've met some dogs that were very atypical for their breeds... I think it has a lot to do with how they're brought up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggplant Jeff
    I used to work with a guy who had this awesome picture of his collie (lassie-type, dunno what the real breed name is) like 4 feet off the ground grabbing a frisbee in midair. So obviously they CAN be good frisbee dogs (after I saw the picture I found out that he and his dog actually enter competitions).

    I suspect it depends as much on the individual dog as on the breed. I've met some dogs that were very atypical for their breeds... I think it has a lot to do with how they're brought up.


    I agree it has a lot to do with the individual dog. The lassie type dog is a rough collie - a smooth collie is the same breed but with a different (shorter) coat. From my experience though, having lived with three collies and working with collie club, agility, and herding clubs - the competitive frisbee rough collie is not the norm. I have some great photos of my dog herding and doing agility - but I know that the photos were taken probably 10-15 minutes before my lack of work ethic dog decided she had had enough. I love rough collies and will continue to have the breed as my dog pet of choice - but for being working dogs, they are generally less intense over a period of time than most of the other working breeds. My dog is very smart (although not border collie intense), and she very much needed "work" particularly as a younger dog. The problem with her was that it wasn't just physical energy - it was mental - so it wasn't just that I could take her running like with sweet but dim hound mix. However, I have had a foster rescue collie who did like to run with me as I rollerbladed along - she would not go as far or long as hound - but she did enjoy it longer than my dog. Also -sorry if I gave the wrong impression - I was not advocating border collies for most people - they are great, but need tons of "work" (attention and something to do to keep their minds and bodies busy) to be happy.
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    My pooch has been no problem at all with bikes or shoes, he just leaves fur everywhere. But how can you complain with a mug like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by farrellcollie
    I agree it has a lot to do with the individual dog. The lassie type dog is a rough collie - a smooth collie is the same breed but with a different (shorter) coat. From my experience though, having lived with three collies and working with collie club, agility, and herding clubs - the competitive frisbee rough collie is not the norm. I have some great photos of my dog herding and doing agility - but I know that the photos were taken probably 10-15 minutes before my lack of work ethic dog decided she had had enough. I love rough collies and will continue to have the breed as my dog pet of choice - but for being working dogs, they are generally less intense over a period of time than most of the other working breeds. My dog is very smart (although not border collie intense), and she very much needed "work" particularly as a younger dog. The problem with her was that it wasn't just physical energy - it was mental - so it wasn't just that I could take her running like with sweet but dim hound mix. However, I have had a foster rescue collie who did like to run with me as I rollerbladed along - she would not go as far or long as hound - but she did enjoy it longer than my dog. Also -sorry if I gave the wrong impression - I was not advocating border collies for most people - they are great, but need tons of "work" (attention and something to do to keep their minds and bodies busy) to be happy.
    I have a very strong love of rough collies. I was hoping to get one to fetch a frisbee for me after I've tossed it out. I don't need it to catch it in mid-air or anything, just bring it back. The collie I had as a kid was very loyal, devoted, and quiet. I still miss him. I'm hoping to get another collie like that but better at retrieving things. My last one would just grab it and run for his dear life! I'm going to check out that Sour Apple stuff. Do you know of any collie rescue clubs around Dallas? As much as I would love to raise puppy, it might be easier and definitely more humane if I just adopted a young abandoned collie. Are they harder to train when they're older? Maybe I'll get an older puppy or something.

    Thanks for all the feedback everyone!

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    You might search for a collie rescue person/group in your area. We got our wonderful mutt from a woman that does lab rescue. She rescued his mom and all her puppies from a pound. My dog was born on the floor of the pound. He was roughly (ruffly ) 5 months old when he came to live with us. The only down side was that he had gone 5 months with very little training or individual attention. He also had a horrible name, and it took him a little while to get used to it.

    Bitter Apple is good stuff, but it doesn't seem to bother all dogs the same. My dog will just lick it off while making a disgusted face.
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    A quick yahoo search came up with three collie rescue organizations in texas (there are probably more - I just stopped looking) If none of these are in your area - I imagine that they could direct you to the proper place where you are:
    Austin Collie Rescue
    Houston Collie Rescue /www.houstoncollierescue.org/
    NEW MEXICO & WEST TEXAS COLLIE RESCUE


    I got my collie nine years ago as a 7 week old puppy from a missouri rescue organization (now is spoiled rotten - but doesn't jump on people, gets along with dogs, cats, horses etc) . Later, we fostered and ultimately kept another collie who was about 4 years old and had been abused/neglected- she is a sweet, giant lover (more so than my dog) but was (and still is but to a lesser degree after we have worked with her for a few years) afraid of many things (she never took to agility but loves sheepherding)- (her list of fears include thunder, fireworks, men, children, etc) - I strongly urge you to check out the rescue organizations and their available collies. The rescue people and the foster people can help you find a young/grown collie that is right for you. I imagine you could find a fetching collie - my dog will fetch for about 5 minutes and then she is bored and wants to do something else. Other foster/rescue collie (my ex-partner's dog - we share custody) is about the same with fetch. Grown rescue collie when we got her was housebroken, gentle, did not get on furniture - she will steal food and is not keen on children or other dogs (will fight most other dogs - strangely enough got along from the start with the two she had to at our house) - but each rescue story is different and each dog will come with strengths and weaknesses - I believe that rescue is the way to go and that you will be able to find a collie you will love. Good luck.
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    My dog had a seizure last night.

    I've hardly slept all night because every time he moves in his crate I have to check on him. Hopefully the vet will be able to tell us something today. I've delt with sick pets but I've never felt so helpless in my life as when he was seizing.

    I know this isn't really the place for this...sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alloy Addict
    My dog had a seizure last night.

    I've hardly slept all night because every time he moves in his crate I have to check on him. Hopefully the vet will be able to tell us something today. I've delt with sick pets but I've never felt so helpless in my life as when he was seizing.

    I know this isn't really the place for this...sorry.
    Hope you dog is doing better....

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    Quote Originally Posted by samp02
    Hope you dog is doing better....
    Thanks very much. The vet is checking his blood to rule out environmental problems. Otherwise we just have to observe him and keep a log of any seizures he may have in the future. If the blood work come back clean and he continues to have seizures then he has epilepsy. They can live with that, but it can be hard on them depending on the severity. The meds are hard on their liver too.

    Spending an hour or so at the emergency vet clinic last night was very sobering. A lot of trauma, a lot of people crying, and even more people sitting around and looking worried.
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    To keep this cycling related, my dog doesn't seem to have the slightest inclination to chase bikes. He will rip my arm out of its socket to try to chase a squirrel or rabbit, but he doesn't even watch cyclists go by. He must recognize the familiar smell.
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