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    Giant-Riding Ogre Don Gwinn's Avatar
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    I looked at a few things today but didn't ride. In the forums, everybody dismisses the idea of MSRP, but I note that's what both shops I visited had on the price tags. I keep thinking I'm going to want dropped handlebars, but I don't think I'll know the difference between the road bikes and the "fitness bikes" other than that. I really just want lots of hand positions.

    On the other hand, I don't want to spend a fortune, and the flat bars should work OK. I'm going to ride an OCR3, an FCR4 and a Specialized Sirrus tomorrow. I know what my wife is going to say--the OCR is too expensive, the FCR4 is also too expensive but more acceptable ($440 on the tag versus $600.) The Sirrus might be just right, and at the moment I like it a whole lot myself. Again, I realize this may all change when I ride them.

    Anyway, the Sirrus is marked $519. MSRP is $519 (this is the '05 model.) I also want some extra tubes, CO2 inflater, and I want to look at MTB shoes and clipless pedals, shorts, etc. If I get the Sirrus I'll probably want to add bar-end grips. I don't know exactly what I'll end up buying, but I'm sure I'll need several things.

    So what's a good price to end up at? $500? $475? $450? Any bargaining tips? Am I expecting too much just because this is an '05 and I'm buying some accessories? Honestly, I expected the prices to be marked down a little from MSRP on the tags.


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    I would also expect it to be somewhere slightly south of $500. There's not a whole lot of wiggle room at that price point, but most shops don't sell bikes at MSRP.

    I bought the 04 Giant Cypress SX which is now the FCR3 with a slightly different component mix. I liked the ride better than the Sirrus, and I really didn't like the Shimano shifters on the Sirrus. Mine came with Grip Shifters, which even after 2500 miles, I have yet to adjust. The FCRs look like they come with SRAM trigger shifters, which I would probably like.

    I would suggest that you find a model that has a carbon fiber fork vs alum (no way) or steel. It will be lighter, and will alleviate much of the road buzz of aluminum frames. Mine has steel, but I still feel some of it. I did buy a carbon flat bar because I found one for $20; can't say it does much though. Also, I keep the front tire at 80 vs the max 87 rating. That definitely helps, and doesn't slow me down at all.

    Do you weigh 299 lbs? If so, then the FCR's wheels, and any wheels with less than 32 spokes will cause you problems. The Sirrus might be the one. From your picture, it looks like it's got at least 32 spokes.
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    Tom (ex)Builder twahl's Avatar
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    The price is fair, and Specialized is known for offering retailers pretty slim markups.

    There's a Sirrus in my family, my son rode it for a while, now my daughter is one it. I've put 700 x 23s on it and changed the crankset out for a 52/42/30 so that my daughter can have an easier time keeping up with everyone, but none of these changes were mandated for any other reason. It's a nice bike...we'll be putting my daughter on a road bike in the spring, and the Sirrus will probably find a home (with it's original crankset and 28 tires) with my sister.
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    You are down to 299;bs. from 396 lbs.? Good for you! Get yourself a good ride...now!
    Reward yourself...!

    BTW: The Sirrus should be fine. Bar ends--the longer kind (for more hand positions)-- are recommended. The base model, which you are looking at, has 48-38-28 gearing, if I remember correctly. At your weight, I'd think that'd be high enough. Also, the Sirrus will take 700c x 28 tires; stock may not be quite that large. If the stock tires aren't 700c x 28, have them swapped for Kevlar-belted tires that are. The larger tire will normally be rated at a lower pressure (max. 90-100 psi vs. somewhere around 125 psi), and will help absorb that road shock. You don't need a carbon fork for a ultralight utility/sport hybrid such as this, and at your weight, it might be problematic anyway.

    Have fun!

    BTW: I'm no "featherweight" myself: I usually "weigh in" at 220 lbs. or so. (I'm a big girl!) I also have an ('04) Sirrus Sport--the disc brake model--and it's just fine for the job of "light commuter/sport" bike, and holds up fine under riders like us!
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    Tom (ex)Builder twahl's Avatar
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    Ours came with 700 x 28s. I think it may even take a 35.
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    If you want more hand positions, you will tire of the flat bar quickly. Consider a Sequoia or other comfort bike. Good luck.




    [QUOTE=Don Gwinn]I looked at a few things today but didn't ride. In the forums, everybody dismisses the idea of MSRP, but I note that's what both shops I visited had on the price tags. I keep thinking I'm going to want dropped handlebars, but I don't think I'll know the difference between the road bikes and the "fitness bikes" other than that. I really just want lots of hand positions.

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