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Old 08-19-05, 05:46 PM   #1
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My bike got stolen.

I walked off BART in El Cerrito Plaza yesterday and looked at the bike racks for my bike. It took me 3 minutes to realize I wasn't looking in the right place and that someone broke through my kryptonite lock and stole it. I've been depressed since I realized that yesterday. Now, I have to get a new bike because this was my only way of transportation - I got rid of the car because I loved just depending in my bike. From now on, I'll use 3 locks and so that if they want it, they have to REALLY work toward getting it.

This really sucks. I wish I could inflict huge amounts of bodily harm to the person that stole it. The clincher is that I just rented "Bejing Bicycle" on Netflix (to watch tonight) which is about someones' bike getting stolen. The only thing that I can laugh about is that I took the seat with me since it had a quick release. It would at least have been difficult for them to ride it home.

I only had that bike a month and I spent over $250 because I wanted a decent bike since I ride at least 12 miles every day to and from work. Damn!
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Old 08-19-05, 05:51 PM   #2
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Bummer! Does BART have bike lockers that you can rent? DC Metro has bike lockers that you can rent for $75 a month, and are a good option for people who leave their bikes at the same Metro station day after day.
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Did any of the areas around the bike racks have cameras? You'll probably never get your bike back, but hopefully they can find the person that stole it and put him/her in jail.
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Bummer! Does BART have bike lockers that you can rent? DC Metro has bike lockers that you can rent for $75 a month, and are a good option for people who leave their bikes at the same Metro station day after day.
No bike lockers whatsoever. This was the first time I have ever locked up my bike at BART. From now on, I'll take the bus to BART. I will be happy spending 25 minutes on the bus and my bike safely staying at home instead of the 5 minute ride to BART on my bike with the possibility of my bike not being there when I get back.
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Old 08-19-05, 05:57 PM   #5
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Did any of the areas around the bike racks have cameras? You'll probably never get your bike back, but hopefully they can find the person that stole it and put him/her in jail.
This happens ALL THE TIME, so there are indeed cameras. I filed a report and they're working on it. However, people who work for BART at notorious for being overpaid for doing barely any work - they have their own BART Police. I really think nothing will come of this at all. Darn.
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Downtown Berkeley Bart station has monitored bike area. You bring the bike there, they give you a ticket. Bikes are stored in the cage and there is a person there most of the time. Also some stations do have bike locks you can rent. I know San Leandro station has them. File a report with Berkeley Police. I think it would be a bit more productive.
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Downtown Berkeley Bart station has monitored bike area. You bring the bike there, they give you a ticket. Bikes are stored in the cage and there is a person there most of the time. Also some stations do have bike locks you can rent. I know San Leandro station has them. File a report with Berkeley Police. I think it would be a bit more productive.
I called them and they said it's not in their jursidiction. They said the only people I can talk to are BART police. I'm screwed. At least I know a better BART station but too bad it's farther from my house.
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I'd just get a beater. A heavy duty kryptonite chain + lock for the front wheel + frame to rack, then a heavy duty u-lock for the rear wheel + frame to rack with a cable looped through your seat.
Or if you really wanna beef it up, get a long 8 ft kryptonite chain and lock. Use 2 u-locks for the front and rear wheel and frame. Then wrap the kryptonite around the front, rear, and frame again. At that point, it's easier to just cut the rack down to steal your bike.
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I'd just get a beater. A heavy duty kryptonite chain + lock for the front wheel + frame to rack, then a heavy duty u-lock for the rear wheel + frame to rack with a cable looped through your seat.
Or if you really wanna beef it up, get a long 8 ft kryptonite chain and lock. Use 2 u-locks for the front and rear wheel and frame. Then wrap the kryptonite around the front, rear, and frame again. At that point, it's easier to just cut the rack down to steal your bike.
That's exactly what I was thinking. I'm at the point I wouldn't mind spending 10 minutes to lock or unlock my bike so that it's still there when I get back. Is there such a thing as bike insurance or bike lo-jack?
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I'm sorry to hear about your bike. I do hope you won't get too down over this. You just have to keep in mind that there are some seriously messed up people in this world. I'm thinking about getting a bike lock myself this weekend. Which one did you have so I know which one to avoid.
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I'm sorry to hear about your bike. I do hope you won't get too down over this. You just have to keep in mind that there are some seriously messed up people in this world. I'm thinking about getting a bike lock myself this weekend. Which one did you have so I know which one to avoid.


I will be getting the super nice ones next time.
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Doesn't Kryptonite have a guarantee? $3,500 or something?
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Doesn't Kryptonite have a guarantee? $3,500 or something?
I checked it on the website. It says it should be used as a secondary lock so I have no idea if it'll help me out on recouping part of the cost. I'm going to die trying and send them a copy of the police report, though.
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I will be getting the super nice ones next time.
Even if you had to stick multiple locks on it, it should only take about 2 minutes to lock the bike up. The cable lock you had is definitely a no no, there's no insurance on it. The more expensive locks (the ones that cost $50 a piece) do have insurance.
If you get a $150-200 bike, I'd recommend getting a heavy duty chain lock or u-lock from kryptonite ($75 or so), filling out the insurance, then getting a secondary cable lock to lock up the front wheel, plus another small cable to loop around the seat. The thing is, for kryptonite, you have to send them back the cut lock in order to claim the insurance, most thieves probalby leave the broken lock there anyway.
Otherwise, I think masterlock offers a pretty good insurance policy too but you don't have to send the broken lock back.
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Man, that's terrible! I'm going back to school in September and now I'm scared! At least I'll have surplus from financial aid to procure some locks for my bike.

So, did you at least get over the numbness? Silver lining anyone?
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Kristen,
Sorry to hear about the bike theft. You definitely need a better lock than a cable lock though. When I read that they broke your Kryptonite lock I pictured a U-lock, and was surprised that a thief would go to that kind of trouble for a bike that cost around $250. I have that cable lock and only use it when I'm in a very low risk area, and only for short periods of time. In the Bay Area I would never rely on the cable by itself.

As suggested by others here get the highest quality U-lock you can. Make sure it is a new one that doesn't use the tubular keys. Learn how to use the U-lock effectively by either searching here or the internet in general. This page is a good place to start. Get a cable lock for the front wheel. Use a smaller cable or old chain to lock the seat to the bike, or take it with you. Locking seat clamps are available too, or at least they used to be. It is possible to steal just about anything, but make the losers work hard for it.

If you have renter's insurance, check to see if it would cover this. Many policies do cover bike theft. Mark you next bike in several inconspicuous places so that you can identify it later if this happens again.

Keep your chin up, and don't let this stop you from riding.
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I used to live in the SF bay area....nothing short of a u-lock or heavy chain with captive shackle lock will suffice.

For bikes up to about $350, a standard kryptolok will do for non-overnight purposes, for overnight purposes, get a heavy chain, and find a good place to lock it. Avenir makes a nice one for $20-30, depending on the lock used. A good place to lock something is where the bike is close enough to wake up by the theft attempt, and difficult enough that the thief would have to drop the bike to make a getaway.

NEVER overnight park a nice bike on the street. If you plan on doing this, go to a thrift shop/garage sale/etc and get an old "beater"....look for something with a solid frame, and fork, and is in as good of shape as possible. Nothing shiny and spectaculer. Then buy the beefiest lock you can, like a NY3000. A "seemingly worthless" bike + obscene over-protection is pretty good theft deterrent.
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I will be getting the super nice ones next time.
Now I'm not blaming the victim, but that lock would be insufficient in the safest neighborhood in America. So you'd expect to lose a bike locked with THAT in Berkeley.
But don't give up and rely on the bus! I get to my destination in Berkeley before the poor bus riders even get picked up from the bus stop!
Get another bike and invest in a good lock. If you're willing, spend the big bucks for a New York Lock - relatively easy to carry (only as heavy as a freshman chemistry book!) and TOUGH! Plus, if you upgrade to a better bike, you'll still have an appropriate lock.
Do a forum search for locking ideas and read "Alanbikehouston's" comments - he knows his stuff! Usually if you make it difficult to steal your bike, wheels, components and bits, thieves will look elsewhere for easy pickings. And they're usually looking to fence a bike for a quick $50 to buy crack, so it doesn't really matter if your bike is $250 or $800 - lock 'em all well!
Good luck and keep riding!
PS To some of the later lock overkill comments, I say "Think Pee Wee Herman!"
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Well pretty much what the above poster said - you really needed a better lock. It's easy to want to get a good bike then skimp on a good lock until you realize that there will be nothing to lock if you skimped.

Maybe a kryptonite something or other like this:


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Try a folder the next time when you purchase a new bike. I did and it pretty much eliminated the need to lock up anywhere!
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