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Old 09-03-05, 06:07 AM   #1
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Scared to lock my bike now.....

So I went out this morning to where I work and tested my U-lock. Amazingly enough I was able to lock both wheels to the thickest steel post allowed. And I was also able to put the U-lock through the frame of my bike as well.

However, the posts at work only allow you to push the bike in backwards. If I push the bike in forwards the back wheel doesn't reach far enough to the steel ring. So I locked my bike and took a look.

My beautiful shifters stand out like a sore thumb. My bike is all black and the Shimano shifters are grey. It would take someone with a nut wrench all but 10 seconds to unscrew the nuts and take my shifters, handlebar, and stem.

I cannot see a way of averting that situation. Removing the stem would require removing all the cables and I'm not sure how to do that.

Anyone recommend some ideas for me?
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Small parts accessed with a small wrench, like bottle cages, shifters, cranks, crakes, stem, handlebars and shifters cannot be locked, unless you get some of those locking screws that exist for seatposts. Even then, fiding the correct length for all of those parts will be totally impossible.

3 solutions:

1. Live with it really, it's rare you'll see a bike with stolen handlebars just for the components, especially if low- to mid-end.

2. Park next to a more expensive bike.

3. Get a cheap fixie or a single speed for comuting, and leave the nice bike back at home. For very little money, you can get one that has almost no resell value, and in the case of a fixie, is imprevious to impulse theft since most impulse theives have the coordination of a smoking frog.
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Old 09-03-05, 11:14 AM   #3
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I fill the heads of bolts attaching things I want to see again with epoxy.
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Old 09-03-05, 12:54 PM   #4
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I would get a beater and use that bike for transportation cycling. Then you avoid all bike racks since these users tend to steal or vandalize bikes. Always remember to hide the bike.
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Old 09-03-05, 12:58 PM   #5
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I heave heard that some people fill bolt heads with epoxy, chewing gum, wax, caulk, silicone, or even superguling a small BB in there.

EDIT: BB = Ball Bearing

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I heave heard that some people fill bolt heads with epoxy, chewing gum, wax, caulk, silicone, or even superguling a small BB in there.
I read that and saw "supergluing a small bottom bracket in there" and was REALLY confused.

fill it with solder. that way, if you need to actually unscrew it in the future, you can just melt/wick out the solder.
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Old 09-03-05, 02:25 PM   #7
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I read that and saw "supergluing a small bottom bracket in there" and was REALLY confused.

fill it with solder. that way, if you need to actually unscrew it in the future, you can just melt/wick out the solder.
ooo...that's a really good idea...
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Old 09-03-05, 05:01 PM   #8
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I would get a beater and use that bike for transportation cycling. Then you avoid all bike racks since these users tend to steal or vandalize bikes. Always remember to hide the bike.
I'd do quite the opposite, at least around where I live here in Canada. Hiding your bike from the eyes of the public also hides the thief and his tools from the eyes of the public, just FYI.
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In my many years of police work, I've never seen components stolen from bikes. Wheels, yes. But not parts. I'm sure it may happen somewhere, but it's usually easier to steal the entire bike... Few thieves carry metric allen wrenches and such around with them.

At our university, despite our constant programs and Kryptonite lock rental program, it's like a shopping cart for thieves. Not locked, locked wrong, locked but not locked to anything, etc, etc.
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In my many years of police work, I've never seen components stolen from bikes. Wheels, yes. But not parts. I'm sure it may happen somewhere, but it's usually easier to steal the entire bike... Few thieves carry metric allen wrenches and such around with them.

At our university, despite our constant programs and Kryptonite lock rental program, it's like a shopping cart for thieves. Not locked, locked wrong, locked but not locked to anything, etc, etc.
Interesting....now I'm a bit more relieved.
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Very few people bother to steal components, unless maybe it's a campy record shfiter. If you need to, mcmaster sells every type of screw you can imagine in the security configuration, hex socket with a pin in the middle.
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Very few people bother to steal components, unless maybe it's a campy record shfiter. If you need to, mcmaster sells every type of screw you can imagine in the security configuration, hex socket with a pin in the middle.
It's probably a seldom occurrence, but it does happen. My sister in law lost the handlebars, stem & everything attached. Her bike was a mid-level mountain bike with average components. Although not an expensive bike, replacement of the stolen parts was VERY expensive.
The previous posts outline good, if rather permanent, solutions. I use an alternate method that serves two purposes. I squirt some grease in the stem binder bolt and then drop in the appropriate-sized bearing. This prevents quick theft, but allows servicing by removing the bearing with a needle. It also prevents water from pooling and rust from forming.
Be creative in securing your components. Make it inconvenient for thieves and they usually move on to greener (easier) pastures.
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wow never thought about that... yea probably just solder it or get the special screws slvoid was talking about
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Just replace all your screws with those. Your bike's gonna be the s*it. Get the kryptonite locking skewers too. You can lock it up w/o removing anything.

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Just replace all your screws with those. Your bike's gonna be the s*it. Get the kryptonite locking skewers too. You can lock it up w/o removing anything.
Just ... hum... avoid that last one, unless you're dead-set on fitting and believe your components will last forever. Instead of using that one, I'd just weld the sucker in place.

Just in case someone just dosen't realize it, that's what they lock safes down with, impossible to remove without heavy machinery.
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Oh yeah true.
For those who don't know, one way screws only allow you to tighten them. There's a special tool that can loosen them but it's for very low torque's only. Other than drilling through them or using an easyout, there's no way to remove these screws once they're tightened.
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I'd suggest you don't glue your bolt heads, unless you want to use lots of 4-letter words when you need to unscrew them. Even with something easier to remove like wax, you'll use a few dirty words, and that should be more than enough for the weirdos.
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Just replace all your screws with those. Your bike's gonna be the s*it. Get the kryptonite locking skewers too. You can lock it up w/o removing anything.

Nice.....would any home hardware store sell these screws or are they only for security stores? Plus I would need to find the screwdriver as well.
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You'll have to try a pretty large store like home depot to have a chance of finding some, either that or a security store. Or you can go to hudson fasteners' online site to see if you can order some.
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Oh yeah true.
For those who don't know, one way screws only allow you to tighten them. There's a special tool that can loosen them but it's for very low torque's only. Other than drilling through them or using an easyout, there's no way to remove these screws once they're tightened.
Actually, there's a very easy way. Using a Dremel with a ceramic cut-off wheel will allow you to cut a flat slot in the bolt head and remove it with a flathead screwdriver. Have done it many times.
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Just replace all your screws with those. Your bike's gonna be the s*it. Get the kryptonite locking skewers too. You can lock it up w/o removing anything.
I remember looking into these security screws a while back but decided that they were no good for bike applications since they don't come in the metric sizes used on bikes. I couldn't find a single US reseller that carried metric security screws. If you know where to get them, please share.
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In my many years of police work, I've never seen components stolen from bikes. Wheels, yes. But not parts. I'm sure it may happen somewhere, but it's usually easier to steal the entire bike... Few thieves carry metric allen wrenches and such around with them.

At our university, despite our constant programs and Kryptonite lock rental program, it's like a shopping cart for thieves. Not locked, locked wrong, locked but not locked to anything, etc, etc.
Are you counting seats, endbars, and water bottle cages as components? Cause I had all those stolen of my bike in college while parked on the most central, well lit, well policed, part of campus. And I went to UVA in Charlottesville, VA ... ie, not a city college and no crime problems. I'd agree with you though if you are referring only to shifters, derailers, et all.
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Are you counting seats, endbars, and water bottle cages as components? Cause I had all those stolen of my bike in college while parked on the most central, well lit, well policed, part of campus. And I went to UVA in Charlottesville, VA ... ie, not a city college and no crime problems. I'd agree with you though if you are referring only to shifters, derailers, et all.
What's an endbar?
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If you have a really nice bike, don't lock it up, don't let it out of your sight. The second bike thing is the best thing to do. Theives are so sorry that they may get frustrated and just kick in your rim. If you invest and build your good bike, don't take any chances by leaving your bike unattended.
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Hehe he said it backwards, I think he meant "bar end".
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