Knee dead again after ride
Have runners knee after i took a 2 week bicycle ride rest. Got on a bike the other day for a light ride for 6km i found out my knee has a lot of pain. Only when i ride my bike it hurts. I was thinking of buying a new road bike now it looks as if my riding days are officially over. Maybe next summer i will try to ride again if it hurts again goodbye riding days.
Perhaps you need to see doctor...if your knee is hurting that bad and after that much of a break, either your bike is way off in terms of fit, or else you have one major problem. How old are you and did you have a previous injury...?
Get your bike-position checked out. Most beginners on bikes have their seats set way too low and too far back, leading to knee and IT pain. Have a shop with FitKit set you up on the bike.
Then when actually riding, pick EASY gears and spin them fast. Don't ever feel like you're pushing on the pedals. Learn to spin smoothly in circles, this will make for smooth transitions in various spots of the pedal stroke as other muscle-groups come into play. The on-off pushing of the pedals with only your quads is not the best thing for the knees.
As previously suggested, spend the money to ensure you and your bike have a good fit if you're having problems finding the correct fit on your own.
Originally Posted by 49er
And even though this may seem counter-intuitive, cycling is one of the best therapies you can have for rehabilitiating a knee. There are studies which have shown this. Google awaits the curious.
Here are things which work for me (17+ continuous years of utility cycling after military service)
--Eat Jello, a single cup serving (you can buy them in 6 packs, diet and regular) once a day is more than enough gelatin to help give your body a source of repair material. Jello brand is more pleasant than most. This may sound wacky, but honestly, it's not like someone asking you to take exotic pills or anything weird. The body knows what to do with gelatin--use it to repair things.
--Use lower gears and a smooth cadence. No standing in the pedals or racing traffic across intersections. Be humble oh Spandex'd one, at least until you've regained the pain-free function of your knee. Most of the time that whole "Pulling senstation beneath the kneecap" is caused by pushing a gear that's too high. If you live in the "big ring", move yourself to the middle ring and don't get out of it unless you can maintain the same cadence (downhill or a flat situation).
--Understand that it takes the body about three days to heal minor stuff, with injuries in joints that time can be in weeks. It is also a good idea to use an anti-inflamatory, like ibuprofen 30 minutes before a ride if there is swelling of the knee. This helps, but shouldn't be used to justify non-theraputic behaviors (ego-based spur-of-the-moment competition sprints or that 30 to 50 mile ride after one good day).
--Don't be afraid to touch yourself in public
Massage your legs, above, below, and at the knee several times a day-. It helps increase blood flow and it gives you a chance to show off. If you have someone who doesn't mind touching you that's even better because in much the same way we can't tickle ourselves our body knows when someone else is touching it, and that's good for increasing blood flow too.
--Cycle every day you possibly can. When you're rehabilitiating a knee set a healthy goal at first and when you start getting results gradually push the envelope. Your body will work with you. Even just 15 to 20 minutes is enough to make a difference.
Thank You, My bike is a 20" Mountain Bike using the middle ring gear only. I was told i look as a old man pedalling so i raised the seat but still have the same pain. Riding standing actually helps as less pain is felt. My cadence and feet on the pedals have changed postion and speed but find the pain the same as before. I thought clips on the pedals may make my feet be always in a good postion but the pain is always at the bendng off the knee.
My muscles are in terrific condtion i weight train for 10 years 5 days a week. Had some minor injuries on the same knee in the spring but it was a different pain but went away after a few weeks. Being in my mid 30's at peak condition its unfortunate that this nagging injury is deterring me from riding.
As for any swelling have none. Seeing a doctor will not help even a knee surgeon wont know whats wrong until they scope the knee which will make it worse.
For eating Jello never heard that before lot of sugar don't eat much sugar, thought of trying some ligament arthritis herbs such as sulphates seems to help weak ligaments. As for riding everyday impossible pain will hurt to much might have to walk bike back if it gets to agonizing. But walking or heavy weight training no problem, although will baby my knee a little while longer for squats, use 225lbs rather then heavy 315lbs.
So plans for getting a new road bike this fall is a good investment or not? Getting a high end Allez Elite might help my knee next summer rather then the cheap warped chainring mountain i'm using now.
Old motto that i used Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger....Ya what a bunch of crap tell that to my knee.. New motto What a idiot I'am...
Can you take a picture of you on the bike? Might be something obvious with the position. Easy way to check seat height is to put the crank at the bottom, parallel to the seat-tube and put your heel over the pedal-spindle. You should not be able to touch the pedal with your heel. Check out Dave Moulton's bike sizing & fit guide.
Also gearing depends upon speed and RPM. If you're in the middle-ring going up a 10% grade, that's too big of a gear. Leave your pedal-clips loose to give your knees and ankles plenty of wiggle room. Don't push hard on the pedals, you should feel like your legs can't even keep up with the bike; like they're freewheeling in the forward direction.
Be careful, don't push it. It doesn't take much to cause permanent knee-injury. Get your position checked out by a shop with FitKit and get a computer that reads RPMs so you can stay above 85-90rpms the whole time...
Humvee of bikes =Worksman
"Be careful, don't push it. It doesn't take much to cause permanent knee-injury."
GOOD sound advice here, mate. If you're still in pain after you "fit" the bike
get thee to a doctor and stay OFF the bike till you do.
By-Tor...or the Snow Dog?
I have been struggling the past year with this. DONT SCREW AROUND WITH IT. Honestly go to a doc, get xrays. Make sure that you don't have another major problem going on. Then go through physical therapy. And do what they tell you. It will be a slow process but you will win. You will. Another thing. Get your bike fitted. It is very crucial for your knees to be fitted right. No don't stop riding! Also it will hit you off the bike also, so don't just stop riding and think it will end. You need to take action my friend! I had it hurt so bad some days that I couldn't walk. I would scream in pain. So please do what I did go to a doc.
Originally Posted by 49er
Also I did go to an ortho, he made sure that my knees weren't messed up other than muscles. Next I went to a sports doc. He confirmed that it was runner knee. The basic meaning of runners knee is that your outer quad is much stronger than your inner quad. And what happens is the outer quad pulls the knee cap out of track, causing the clicking and pain. So I did physical therapy for a while and I was eventually able to get back on the bike and ride. I now hardly get clicking or pain when I ride, only occasionally. But sometime soon I am going to a physical therapists to do a check up and see how I progressed. Well please take the advice as I said before DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
If you have any questions feel free to PM, IM, or email me.
Also forgot to tell you is, when i was being fitted for a test ride for a road bike they found that one leg was longer then the other. I didn't notice this and had no back pain from this. I did have in the past some back muscle pulls from heavy weight training. I never saw a massuse ever, but it may be a contributor to the knee problem, do you think.
Humvee of bikes =Worksman
Mate, quit askin' questions here and go to a doctor to find out. NONE of us can help except to tell
Originally Posted by 49er
you that you NEED real help from a medical professional........a doctor.
Good Grief already.
Scoping the knee won't hurt the knee other then some local pain that will go away in a few days. GO SEE A DOCTOR, one that specializes in your type of injury. Crying out loud I have a friend that went through hip replacement surgery in December and he's been riding a bike for about 2 months now. But the difference between him and you is that he WENT TO SEE A DOCTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!