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    It is my belief that habitual pot use slows or even stops ones natural course of adult maturity.Show me a 40year old that acts like a 20yr old and I'll show you a 20yr pothead.Used to smoke and couldn't understand why life was so unfair.Quit and found out........Just sayin', not preachin'

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    I just wish people worry less about how I live my life and worry more about how they live their own lives. Didn't someone named Jesus once say 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone'. Maybe we should rename this the 'sainthood forums' with all the perfect angels trolling around here. That's all I have to say on the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doglhunt
    It is my belief that habitual pot use slows or even stops ones natural course of adult maturity.Show me a 40year old that acts like a 20yr old and I'll show you a 20yr pothead.Used to smoke and couldn't understand why life was so unfair.Quit and found out........Just sayin', not preachin'

    by adult maturity you mean miserable and trapped in a marriage that usually sucks then, raising ungrateful brats.
    Comedian Bill Hicks once said, "Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy a jet ski, and you never see an unhappy person riding a jet ski."

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    Adult Maturity by escaping the "It's all about me" mentality.All I'm saying is that my life changed for the better when I stopped getting high.It's now changing for the better now that I've stopped smoking cigarettes.Not to mention the positive impact on my"miserable marriage"and my "brats".Yes, my marrige is sometimes difficult and yes my kids are sometimes ungrateful, but I love them and I OWE them a father that is not stoned or drunk or abusive or sick by his own hand.........adult maturity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doglhunt
    It is my belief that habitual pot use slows or even stops ones natural course of adult maturity.Show me a 40year old that acts like a 20yr old and I'll show you a 20yr pothead.Used to smoke and couldn't understand why life was so unfair.Quit and found out........Just sayin', not preachin'
    doghunt, you stumbled upon a reality that is well known in the drug recovery circles. Drug use absolutely does ****** mental growth and maturity. Your statement "Show me a 40year old that acts like a 20yr old and I'll show you a 20yr pothead" is very accurate.

    This is a real problem when teen-agers use drugs and go from child to adult legally and socially, but not mentally. Often, they wake up on the other side of adulthood without the maturity level needed to deal with important life issues.

    Soooo, anyway... Ride on!
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    Then thier parents are idiots and don't deserve to have kids. Why do people smoke anyways. They aren't cool. They are throwing money and life away. They say it relaxs me, but you know what, not having one would relax me. If you think you are soooo cool smoking a cig. Then go die in a hole somewhere, we don't need you on this planet. You are the people reacking our lifes by 2nd hand smoke. So like I said eairler, if you like it relaxs you or makes you look cool. Go die in a hole somewhere cuase nobody really cares about you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WannaGetGood
    Then thier parents are idiots and don't deserve to have kids. Why do people smoke anyways. They aren't cool. They are throwing money and life away. They say it relaxs me, but you know what, not having one would relax me. If you think you are soooo cool smoking a cig. Then go die in a hole somewhere, we don't need you on this planet. You are the people reacking our lifes by 2nd hand smoke. So like I said eairler, if you like it relaxs you or makes you look cool. Go die in a hole somewhere cuase nobody really cares about you.
    Yowza! OK, WannaGetGood, I see from your profile that you are 14 year old. I am sure that the other people on this forum are Glad to see you are against smoking and glad to see a teenager on the forums excited about bicycling. -maybe a little bit heavy on the "dying in a hole somewhere" stuff, but your earnest is noted.

    We don't want to hear about you starting smoking later on! Stay clean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike
    doghunt, you stumbled upon a reality that is well known in the drug recovery circles. Drug use absolutely does ****** mental growth and maturity. Your statement "Show me a 40year old that acts like a 20yr old and I'll show you a 20yr pothead" is very accurate.

    This is a real problem when teen-agers use drugs and go from child to adult legally and socially, but not mentally. Often, they wake up on the other side of adulthood without the maturity level needed to deal with important life issues.

    Soooo, anyway... Ride on!

    Hmm, so I wonder if "doghunt" is able to drink socially, or if he is a plain ol "substance abuse" type person, who can't even handle marijuana?
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    I love it when people who couldn't handle their chemicals generalize their own problems to the entire population. "I couldn't do it responsibly, so neither can you!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Placid Casual
    I love it when people who couldn't handle their chemicals generalize their own problems to the entire population. "I couldn't do it responsibly, so neither can you!"
    There is no "good handling of drugs" nor is there any "Responsible" use of drugs. Drug use nearly always affect other people more than it does the user. Maybe if you live on an island all alone, you can get stoned and abuse chemicals without hurting others, but when you live in society, you hurt other people when you abuse chemicals.

    Not to mention the extremes of causing accidents that harm others or the fact that drug purchases propogate criminals and crime; Parents of children who do drugs hurt. Children of parents who use drugs hurt. Spouses of users hurt. Loved ones of users hurt.

    Nearly without exception, drug users are selfish and self-serving when it comes to their drug use. They do not feel the pain they inflict on others because they numb themselves with drugs.

    There is no "responsible" use of drugs. Drug use is destructive and irresponsible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike
    There is no "good handling of drugs" nor is there any "Responsible" use of drugs. Drug use nearly always affect other people more than it does the user. Maybe if you live on an island all alone, you can get stoned and abuse chemicals without hurting others, but when you live in society, you hurt other people when you abuse chemicals.

    Not to mention the extremes of causing accidents that harm others or the fact that drug purchases propogate criminals and crime; Parents of children who do drugs hurt. Children of parents who use drugs hurt. Spouses of users hurt. Loved ones of users hurt.

    Nearly without exception, drug users are selfish and self-serving when it comes to their drug use. They do not feel the pain they inflict on others because they numb themselves with drugs.

    There is no "responsible" use of drugs. Drug use is destructive and irresponsible.

    So I take it that you advocate the return of the prohibition of alcohol?
    Comedian Bill Hicks once said, "Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy a jet ski, and you never see an unhappy person riding a jet ski."

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike
    There is no "responsible" use of drugs. Drug use is destructive and irresponsible.
    Lot of responsible & productive coffee drinkers out there.

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    Heck, I want to act like 20 when I'm 60!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike
    There is no "good handling of drugs" nor is there any "Responsible" use of drugs. Drug use nearly always affect other people more than it does the user. Maybe if you live on an island all alone, you can get stoned and abuse chemicals without hurting others, but when you live in society, you hurt other people when you abuse chemicals.

    Not to mention the extremes of causing accidents that harm others or the fact that drug purchases propogate criminals and crime; Parents of children who do drugs hurt. Children of parents who use drugs hurt. Spouses of users hurt. Loved ones of users hurt.

    Nearly without exception, drug users are selfish and self-serving when it comes to their drug use. They do not feel the pain they inflict on others because they numb themselves with drugs.

    There is no "responsible" use of drugs. Drug use is destructive and irresponsible.
    You are so full of crap, Mr. Perfect in goody-goody two-shoes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FXjohn
    Hmm, so I wonder if "doghunt" is able to drink socially, or if he is a plain ol "substance abuse" type person, who can't even handle marijuana?
    Never had an addiction problem,never had "handling" problem. Just tried life without drugs for awhile and decided it was better.That's all there is to it.How is that you think I'm so wrong for choosing life this way.Sorry if you thought I was pointing fingers I didn't intend to.It's just that I know alot of people who still smoke/drink/whatever else who have lives could be much more what than they are.Even worse I've seen the train wrecks left behind when they die too young.personally.....no s##t......really.Feel free to do as you please,I don't really care.

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    It's 4:20. Time to move this thread to the politics section

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