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    Starbucks biker pandemic cramps our weekend mornings

    Published today, check out this letter to the editor of the local paper in Oak Park Illinois, a near western suburb of Chicago. Oak Park sure does have some major problems, now doesn't it?! Perhaps with 6 billion dollars in annual sales, Starbucks could buy some more tables and chairs.

    From the Wednesday Journal Viewpoints section:

    Starbucks biker pandemic cramps our weekend mornings

    If you have visited the Starbucks on Lake Street on a weekend this
    summer, you know that word "pandemic" is not an overstatement.
    Swarms of bicyclists flood the street, taking over the sidewalk and
    road, then move to the chairs outside Starbucks, where they remain
    for quite some time.

    Nearly every weekend these bikers have taken nearly every one of the
    seats outdoors for at least an hour. Other customers who would also
    like to enjoy the outdoors and the nice weather before another
    Chicago winter descends upon us are forced to take their beverages
    elsewhere or to frequent a different establishment entirely.

    One is left ponder why we should be forced to go to a different
    coffee shop. In truth, the bikers are paying customers who, like
    everyone else, wish to take advantage of the area and have every
    right to do so. However, it is entirely inconsiderate to take so
    many seats from other paying costumers for such a long span of time.
    It is not as if it is a small group that takes only two tables. No,
    it is a large group that takes every available seat.

    Not only is this a nuisance for the residents of Oak Park, but also
    for tourists. The other day, as I was headed to Starbucks, I saw
    that every seat was taken once again, and heard a group of people
    looking dejected at the crowded tables outside the store. A person
    at the head of group, told them, "Well, that's all right. There are
    a few other coffee shops we can go to around here before we head to
    the Frank Lloyd Wright homes."

    If any members of this group are reading this article, I ask you to
    please be more mindful of your fellow Oak Parkers, the business that
    Starbucks is losing, and the tourists that frequent our town.
    Perhaps consider meeting at a member's house and having coffee and
    breakfast there, or spending less time in the seating area.

    Your fellow, caffeine-deprived Oak Parker,
    Jennifer Klein
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    Bikers hangin' 'round at Starbucks? What a bunch of pathetic poseurs!
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    If Jennifer was not a tard she would get a small business loan and open up a coffee shop next door that didn't cater to the spandex shorts crowd. Then she'd show those turd bikers a thing or two!

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    Maybe if Jen got her lazy butt out of bed earlier she could be the first person to snag a prized Starbucks outdoor table

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    You mean that someone got there before Jenny! <Sob-Sniff-Sob> The POOR girl! I think we can all agree that she should have first rights where ever she shall go. It's just not right that she has to wait for a table among the unwashed.

    Who does she think she is? The fact that the paper would print a letter like this is equally shocking.

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    She's probably chained to her SUV and the real complaint is she needs two chairs, one for each azz-cheek.

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    So why are these cyclists in the wrong?
    The fact they were on bikes should really make no difference to where they're 'allowed' to sit.
    Maybe this Starbucks should reserve her a seat or even better not open at all untill she arrives and gives her consent
    It's a sad state of society when people feel they have the right to dictate what others do if it doesn't fit in to their Life Choice.
    Now, where's my Cappuccino

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    Quote Originally Posted by billwatson58
    Starbucks biker pandemic cramps our weekend mornings

    If you have visited the Starbucks on Lake Street on a weekend this
    summer, you know that word "pandemic" is not an overstatement.
    Swarms of bicyclists flood the street, taking over the sidewalk and
    road, then move to the chairs outside Starbucks, where they remain
    for quite some time.

    Nearly every weekend these bikers have taken nearly every one of the
    seats outdoors for at least an hour. Other customers who would also
    like to enjoy the outdoors and the nice weather before another
    Chicago winter descends upon us are forced to take their beverages
    elsewhere or to frequent a different establishment entirely.
    And those people in Louisiana and Mississippi think they have it bad...

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    [QUOTE=MERTON]okay.... she wouldn't have a problem with a bunch of motorists taking up the seats.... but cyclists? QUOTE]

    That was precisely my first thought. Why does it matter if the people using the seats are cyclists? Is it more socially acceptable for motorists to take up the seating? I pass a Starbucks daily on my morning commute and it's not unusual for all the seats to be taken on those occasions when I stop there...and not a cyclist (so far as I can tell) in the bunch. Some are people with open briefcases discussing business deals or legal issues who sit there for quite lengthy periods. I think her letter would have been more credible had she suggested all table/seating users be mindful of others that may be waiting instead of singling out the cyclists. Course, in her world structured on priority, she probably believes all cyclists should pull off the road whenever a motorist approaches from behind.
    I think I'll ride down to Starbucks and sit there my entire lunch break nursing a frap. I'm feelin sorta militant today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilHinault
    She's probably chained to her SUV and the real complaint is she needs two chairs, one for each azz-cheek.
    Yes! Ah-HA! She must be fat! Good call, Little High Note!
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    That letter, or more to the point the author of the letter, is so pathetic for all the obvious reasons. But just think, she could be behind the wheel of the next SUV that comes barreling down the road behind you.... has the 'caffeine deprivation' defence been tested in court yet? (not that motorists that run down cyclists have to face court all that often)

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    I have no sympathy for Jennifer. Tough. The Starbucks down the street from me is always loaded out. Will I pay $3.50 for a latte? Yes. Will I pay $3.50 for a latte, wait ten minutes for it, and be saturated by that crowd (the sanctimony is palpable)? No.

    Got my own espresso machine and sit on my own porch (neighborhood is nice anyways). Problem solved.

    Adapt. Overcome. Improvise. There's worse **** going down than a lost sojourn to the local SB.

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    "'Pandemic' is not an overstatement." Wow! That's nice. Now we're a global outbreak of a highly infectious disease. Are we viral or bacterial, I wonder? And where's the UN and Doctors Without Borders when you need them?

    It's a Starbucks. Starbucks is a business. You have no inalienable right to a Vente Frappacino. And chances are there's another Starbucks across the street... unless the pandemic has spread there too.

    Someone desperately needs to get over herself.

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    ThanX for posting. I got a real chuckle out of it!

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    We aren't worthy to be sitting at starbucks.

    I'll only drink the drip...Everything else is overpriced and has too many calories

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    She's just being a self-centered human. Feels put out. Identifies a present group as the 'cause'. Poses the 'problem' as a civic issue. BFD. OCP, get riding. Astute small business person open an upscale bike shop/coffee hut nearby. B!tch get a clue. Dilema solved for all.
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    Tell her to go support a LCS (Local Coffee Shop). What a whiny winch

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    As I sat here reading the original post a co-worker walked up and made the comment there are too many Starbucks!!!

    I actually am glad the paper published the letter. Having it published is a favor to cyclists. When someone on the other side of an issue makes a big enough *ss of themself in front of enough other people it hurts their side and helps ours. In this case a huge @ss and a huge audience.

    But what is really funny is that if there really was a large group of cyclists there would be a legitimate complaint. At least on any of the club rides I have been on when we decend on a business there are bikes everywhere. They are in the way of other patrons. Now our group tries to keep then out of the way, but they do get enough in hte way that at least this is something one could ***** about with some justification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billwatson58
    Published today, check out this letter to the editor of the local paper in Oak Park Illinois, a near western suburb of Chicago. Oak Park sure does have some major problems, now doesn't it?! Perhaps with 6 billion dollars in annual sales, Starbucks could buy some more tables and chairs.

    From the Wednesday Journal Viewpoints section:

    Starbucks biker pandemic cramps our weekend mornings

    If you have visited the Starbucks on Lake Street on a weekend this
    summer, you know that word "pandemic" is not an overstatement.
    Swarms of bicyclists flood the street, taking over the sidewalk and
    road, then move to the chairs outside Starbucks, where they remain
    for quite some time.

    Nearly every weekend these bikers have taken nearly every one of the
    seats outdoors for at least an hour. Other customers who would also
    like to enjoy the outdoors and the nice weather before another
    Chicago winter descends upon us are forced to take their beverages
    elsewhere or to frequent a different establishment entirely.

    One is left ponder why we should be forced to go to a different
    coffee shop. In truth, the bikers are paying customers who, like
    everyone else, wish to take advantage of the area and have every
    right to do so. However, it is entirely inconsiderate to take so
    many seats from other paying costumers for such a long span of time.
    It is not as if it is a small group that takes only two tables. No,
    it is a large group that takes every available seat.

    Not only is this a nuisance for the residents of Oak Park, but also
    for tourists. The other day, as I was headed to Starbucks, I saw
    that every seat was taken once again, and heard a group of people
    looking dejected at the crowded tables outside the store. A person
    at the head of group, told them, "Well, that's all right. There are
    a few other coffee shops we can go to around here before we head to
    the Frank Lloyd Wright homes."

    If any members of this group are reading this article, I ask you to
    please be more mindful of your fellow Oak Parkers, the business that
    Starbucks is losing, and the tourists that frequent our town.
    Perhaps consider meeting at a member's house and having coffee and
    breakfast there, or spending less time in the seating area.

    Your fellow, caffeine-deprived Oak Parker,
    Jennifer Klein
    I thought it was funny that she singled out cyclists as well. Now, for some fun, switch out all instances in the story above of cyclists/bikers/etc. for something equitable inane such as stamp collectors, tax collectors, nose pickers, butt scratchers, etc... (Think of the old word games ala Madlibs) and you will see how lame here rant really is...
    "I gotta have more cowbell!"

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    i agree, not sure what cycling has to do with it. i don't see any difference between this and the sunday church crowd all driving to get something to eat afterward. or a large family taking up a dozen seats at ihop. or after a football game all the bars fill up. it's all the same.

    now, i could see if everyone brought their bikes into the store and people couldn't move around because of it, but just walking in and sitting down isn't anything to complain about.

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    This is why Ernest Hemingway left Oak Park and never looked back....

    Probably why he ended it all in Ketchum, ID, too... damn Starbucks was cramping his style... couldn't pose with all that big game and guns with all the spandex and shaved legs around...

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    If you have visited the Starbucks on Lake Street on a weekend this
    summer, you know that word "pandemic" is not an overstatement.
    Swarms of overweight SUV drivers flood the street, taking over the sidewalk and
    road, then move to the chairs outside Starbucks, where they remain
    for quite some time.

    Nearly every weekend these overweight SUV drivers have taken nearly every one of the
    seats outdoors for at least an hour. Other customers who would also
    like to enjoy the outdoors and the nice weather before another
    Chicago winter descends upon us are forced to take their beverages
    elsewhere or to frequent a different establishment entirely.

    One is left ponder why we should be forced to go to a different
    coffee shop. In truth, the overweight SUV drivers are paying customers who, like
    everyone else, wish to take advantage of the area and have every
    right to do so. However, it is entirely inconsiderate to take so
    many seats from other paying costumers for such a long span of time.
    It is not as if it is a small group that takes only two tables. No,
    it is a large group that takes every available seat.

    Not only is this a nuisance for the residents of Oak Park, but also
    for tourists. The other day, as I was headed to Starbucks, I saw
    that every seat was taken once again, and heard a group of people
    looking dejected at the crowded tables outside the store. A person
    at the head of group, told them, "Well, that's all right. There are
    a few other coffee shops we can go to around here before we head to
    the Frank Lloyd Wright homes."

    If any members of this group are reading this article, I ask you to
    please be more mindful of your fellow Oak Parkers, the business that
    Starbucks is losing, and the tourists that frequent our town.
    Perhaps consider meeting at a member's house and having coffee and
    breakfast there, or spending less time in the seating area.

    Your fellow, caffeine-deprived Oak Parker,
    Jennifer Klein



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    She doesn't specify which StarBucks, but looking at the retail store locator, she could easily be within 5 miles of *20* or more stores. Not good enough? That must be one very special SB.

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    This Starbucks is in deep need of one of those San Fran style mass bike rallys. Too bad they would have to hit all 20 before getting the right one.

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    First of all, if Starbucks was LOSING business from cyclists, they wouldn't have a full crowd and turning people away. Starbucks is a bike friendly business, and because of that, they get more business. They aren't stupid.

    Second, there's like a Starbucks on every freakin' corner in the entire northern Illinois area. That doesn't even count the independent coffee shops. Some dumb schlep slackjaw yokel that can't figure out how to get to the nearest coffee shop for the tourists by just walking down to the other end of the block shouldn't be leading tourists. If you can't find a coffee shop, you are an idiot. Oak Park has a ton of those shops. That's why I like Oak Park.

    She's an idiot too. She's also a lazy slob. She's probably in her car too, and she drove all of 2 blocks, passing numerous other coffee houses along the way, and when she gets to the starbucks on Lake, she totally spazzes out because people aren't parting the seas like Moses when they see her. She needs to get real. If she's freaking out over Starbucks being filled, I'd hate to see her in a real crisis.

    Finally, her silly condescending tone about us taking ourselves someplace else makes her sound like a blithering idiot. What she ought to do is take herself home if she can't handle bicyclists or walk to the other coffee house 30 yards down the street.

    Honestly, people like her are what make me think that people CAN really be that stupid.

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