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Old 09-23-05, 12:45 AM   #1
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Specialized Sirrus Vs Trek FX

Hello, I am planning on buying a hybrid-type bike in the next week or so. I feel more secure on this sort of bike than a dedicated road bike. I havent ridden in many years. I have gone and tried a few bikes including: cannondale, giant, specialized, Raleigh, fuji, etc. My favorite so far is the Specialized Sirrus. I really liked the mountain bike feel (which I'm used to from when I was younger), maneuverability, weight, skinny tires (but not too skinny!), suspension seat, and derailleurs/shifters seemed to work great. My second favorite bike was the cannondale road warrior 400, but I dont feel this bike is $130 better than the Sirrus, which actually tended to shift better/easier at the front.

So, I think the specialized is the perfect bike for me, but I wanted to ask from people who own this bike if they have had problems with it? I have read that they have rim issues, as well as various other problems like rattles in the neck and slipping. I would be buying the 2006 version of the Sirrus (for $520 - my budget is $600) from my LBS, so perhaps some of these issues have been addressed.

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to ride Trek's competitor bikes, and from the specs it looks like the Trek 7300FX (or 7.3FX I guess they are called now) may actually be a better bike. Can anyone who knows these two bikes compare/contrast them for me? Is the 7.3FX or 7.5FX bikes even in shops yet?

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I have a Sirrus Elite (2004).

I admit that the handlebars do currently have some horrible creaking, and I can't yet figure out why. But I'm sure all it needs is a good LBS mechanic who knows what needs to be tightened (or loosened) - I can't think it's a design flaw.

I changed to the carbon seatpost. The shock seatpost sucked, and started squeaking after a little while anyway. I was very unimpressed.

I changed the brake levers to standard Deore LX, as the stock ones felt heavy and cumbersome.

I changed the rear wheel to a good, strong touring wheel (I'm a lardy git).

I love my ride.
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Old 09-23-05, 09:28 AM   #3
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I have been using a Sirrus as my full time commuter/utility for the past five years. I have eight bikes in my garage...if I were allowed to keep only one, it would be the Sirrus. Most versatile bike I have ever owned. Great for zipping around town on errands. It can carry a large load and even has touring features (brazes for front/rear racks, third bottle cage, etc.) I can't be objective because I am unfamiliar with the Cannondale, but I positively love my Sirrus. I would even sleep with it if the wife wasn't already so jealous of it.
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Trek and Specialized both make excellent hybrids, but before you buy, you owe it to yourself to at least look at the Kona Dew line. I shopped like you're shopping and ended up with a Dew Deluxe. EXCELLENT values! Happy shopping!
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I had a the Sirrus for a few months before I sold it and brought a road bike. It was a great bike....no regrets at all. Too bad you weren't looking 3 years ago, I sold it with less than 300 miles on it for under $400.
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Old 09-23-05, 04:14 PM   #6
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I was in your same situation a year ago...hadn't ridden a bike in years, was interested in something for commuting and road cycling, but wasn't quite up to a dedicated road bike. I ended up with the 2004 Sirrus Comp and have enjoyed it very much.

I haven't noticed any glaring problems with the bike (I'm still relatively new to cycling, so maybe I don't look for some things). The only thing I might change in the future would be rims and tires. The stock setup works fine, but sometimes the skinny rims and tires aren't the best for the glass, stones, potholes, garbage, etc. of L.A. roads.
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If you can, try to test ride a Trek 7500 FX, 2005 or 2006. I recently purchased a 7500 fX to replace a 10 year old Trek 750 hybrid and I really love it. It is very light and responsive, sort of like a road bike with straight bars and a bit wider wheels. Bear in mind that I own and ride all kinds of bikes including road, mountain, etc. The 7500 FX has very light rolling wheels, great brakes and excellent shifting. Definitely keep it in mind. Specialized makes very good bikes also, so you would have to compare how differently that they ride. Either way you will make out OK. Just wanted to give you my personal recommendation.
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I test road the Trek FX, it was very nice, But I bought the Specialized Comp, in less than 2 weeks I've put 100 miles on it. My bike riding is almost daily for decades. The last 8 years was on a Trek Millinium.
This Specialized is the most comfortable, most manuverable, most effortless bike I have ever owned. I could care less if there is a hill up ahead. I could care less if my destination is 15 or 20 miles away (and back).
I really think if everyone had a bike like this, everyone would ride bikes!
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I test rode the 7500fx today and it was a great bike. But, I actually liked the Specialized Sirrus better, so I went and bought it today! I put 6 miles on it so far and it seems great. I'm hoping to do many more miles!

I have a question about the sirrus. The two wires that folllow the tube where a water bottle would go.. yunno the ones that go underneath to the derailleurs (sp?)... on my bike, they cross over eachother. Is it supposed to be like that or was it assembled wrong? It seems wrong to me because the wires rub eachother and one of the wires hits the two screws under there. Looking at the bike it looks like the easiest way to fix this would be to open up the shifters because the wires are pinched with those endcap things at the ends (by the deraillers) and there are little holes it would have to be re-routed through - so I'd need new little pinch cap things.

Also, can someone suggest a good online place for accessories like grips, mini-pump, flashing tail light, etc?

Thanks for all of the replies!
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I test rode the 7500fx today and it was a great bike. But, I actually liked the Specialized Sirrus better, so I went and bought it today! I put 6 miles on it so far and it seems great. I'm hoping to do many more miles!

I have a question about the sirrus. The two wires that folllow the tube where a water bottle would go.. yunno the ones that go underneath to the derailleurs (sp?)... on my bike, they cross over eachother. Is it supposed to be like that or was it assembled wrong? It seems wrong to me because the wires rub eachother and one of the wires hits the two screws under there. Looking at the bike it looks like the easiest way to fix this would be to open up the shifters because the wires are pinched with those endcap things at the ends (by the deraillers) and there are little holes it would have to be re-routed through - so I'd need new little pinch cap things.

Also, can someone suggest a good online place for accessories like grips, mini-pump, flashing tail light, etc?

Thanks for all of the replies!
My 2004 Sirrus Comp has the same setup if that's any comfort...the first time I looked at it I also thought it looked a bit odd.
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I have the same weird crossed-over wires. I don't worry about it, as I have no need for the doohickies under the tube anyway.

Unless you expect to have left shifter=rear and right shifter=front, then it's a design flaw. You can easily switch the cables leading into the down tube though, so it's no biggie (I never bothered, as I thought it would be/look a bit awkward).

[edit]: on second thought, maybe it's not a design flaw. It seems to me that the location of the cable feeders under the bottom bracket makes the most sense, and therefore the flaw could simply be in how the cables from the handlebar were connected. Still, it just seems odd to me to think of them that way.

Anybody got any pictures?
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ya isnt that weird?! How hard is it to remove the wire from the shifters so i can swap sides at the top of the downtube? Do any sirrus owners have their wires non-crossed? Why would they do this?
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Swapping over is easy, depending on the condition of your cable and the tools you have.

You'll need to remove the whole cable, so it needs to have clean ends for easy reinsertion.
You may need to cut the housing if the length doesn't jive with its new position. I don't know how easy it is with standard tools, but I don't cut housing without a proper bike cable cutting tool.
There's a possibility that the new positions would require a longer housing (so you'd have to purchase it anew)

I would find this impossible without the right tool, personally. But with the tool, easy peasy lemon squeezy.
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the actual cable/wires on mine don't cross each other. left shifter for FD, right shifter for RD. the white cable housing does cross each other, but it's at front of the bike, not under the bottom bracket crossing. no wires rub each other. is this the crossing that you're talking about?

by the way, does yours come with the nimbus tire or the all condition tire? on the website it supposed to have the nimbus, but mine came with the slick all condition tires. i guess i must have the early run right before they switch from 05 to 06. i have the 06.
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I have 9,500 miles on one of them. However changed the wheels for Mavic Open Pro, other than that thing is great. Mine has the Deore shifters and Deore gear on the back. Very pleased with them

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the actual cable/wires on mine don't cross each other. left shifter for FD, right shifter for RD. the white cable housing does cross each other, but it's at front of the bike, not under the bottom bracket crossing. no wires rub each other. is this the crossing that you're talking about?
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by the way, does yours come with the nimbus tire or the all condition tire? on the website it supposed to have the nimbus, but mine came with the slick all condition tires. i guess i must have the early run right before they switch from 05 to 06. i have the 06.
Mine came with All Condition Armadillos (2004). They are amazing at taking crap. But after my experience and other posts here, I'm tempted to consider switching to Conti SportContacts (mostly due to the stiff ride).
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i think that cross is okay, i dont notice any abnormal wear or abrassion. just leave it. i like it how the RD shifter is on my right side as i'm right handed. It gets used a lot, so better on the right.
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A few weeks ago, I went through the same decisions and narrowed it down to a 7500fx and Sirrus as well. Ended up with a Sirrus Sport with a few accessories.

At first, I was a bit hesitant about the Sirrus because of the narrow tire size and 110psi but after test riding them both for extended periods of time, I didn't find the 7500fx that much more comfortable with the fatter tire at lower pressure.

I too am very happy with the Sirrus. The only minor problem so far is the components, the mechanic spent a good half hour on adjusting the gears and I still can't get precise shifting. The owner also mentioned that if I am in the middle chainring, I shouldn't expect to be on the smallest cog and expect it to be perfect. Who knows, maybe the mechanic is a bit of a dud? I plan on taking it in soon once the cables are done stretching.

Subwoofer, enjoy your new Sirrus!
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A few weeks ago, I went through the same decisions and narrowed it down to a 7500fx and Sirrus as well. Ended up with a Sirrus Sport with a few accessories.

At first, I was a bit hesitant about the Sirrus because of the narrow tire size and 110psi but after test riding them both for extended periods of time, I didn't find the 7500fx that much more comfortable with the fatter tire at lower pressure.

I too am very happy with the Sirrus. The only minor problem so far is the components, the mechanic spent a good half hour on adjusting the gears and I still can't get precise shifting. The owner also mentioned that if I am in the middle chainring, I shouldn't expect to be on the smallest cog and expect it to be perfect. Who knows, maybe the mechanic is a bit of a dud? I plan on taking it in soon once the cables are done stretching.

Subwoofer, enjoy your new Sirrus!
The mechanic is correct. It is known as crossing the chain. If you are in the middle ring then you should be in the middle gears at the back, small ring front, larger 3/4 rings back, big ring front, smaller cogs on back. If you cross the chain more than a certain amount then you will get rough gears and wear the chain and cogs.
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I use 125psi for my Sirrus tires. As for gears, normally I use the middle chain ring when I'm cruising, and I can use largest and smallest cogs without hitting the FD cage; you just need to adjust it a bit. However, usually I only use the 2nd largest rear when I'm on the middle chain ring.
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125 psi! I can't imagine 125, I feel nervous when the needle on the guage hits 100.
I asked the LBS guy what the max was and he said probally 125, but I could tell he wasn't sure.
I want to try 125, what do you think the max is?

Will you buy me a new tire and tube if it blows?

P.S. My cables don't cross.
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Anybody doing any touring on a Sirrus?
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125 psi! I can't imagine 125, I feel nervous when the needle on the guage hits 100.
I asked the LBS guy what the max was and he said probally 125, but I could tell he wasn't sure.
I want to try 125, what do you think the max is?

Will you buy me a new tire and tube if it blows?

P.S. My cables don't cross.
I have a 05 Sirrus and used to air up to 125psi. It was fine for me and I weighed anywhere from 230-210 lbs at the time. Nothing blew up on me. I put an Armadillo on the back wheel and run at 100psi on front & back now. I actually miss the 125psi. The stiffness felt like I was going faster and had better control, where as now I feel a little spongy on the tires. I've gotten used to it though.
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I wouldn't dream of it. Alu frame & carbon fork make a much stiffer ride, geometry isn't as nice IMO for 10 hours a day in the saddle, and no drop bars.
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ya isnt that weird?! How hard is it to remove the wire from the shifters so i can swap sides at the top of the downtube? Do any sirrus owners have their wires non-crossed? Why would they do this?
This is the wierdest thing ever... I just got a Sirrus Elite the other day and the cable clamp on the FD was lose and so the cable slacked out and it stopped shifting after about 2 miles. When I went to go tighten it up, I noticed the cables where crossed! I have no idea why they do this. I was angry because this was a new bike and thought the LBS had messed up after I spent (for me) a lot of money. Makes me feel better to know this is a known "issue". Anyways, I swaped them so they aren't crossed anymore. Its a very easy procedure.

1. Snip cable ends off
2. Pull cables out of derailleur clamp bolts (out of 2nd housing for RD) and out of BB guides
3. Swap the cable stops they rest in
4. Re-route cables under BB (and through 2nd housing for RD)
5. Re-attached cables to derailleaurs (this took me a while to ge the appropriate initial tension)
6. Adjust derailleurs.


This is a really rough explanation, PM me if you want the details.

I didn't spend too much time getting the derailleurs perfect cause its a new bike and the cables will slack in a few weeks anyways. I'll get the LBS to do a full derailleur job when I take it back in a few weeks for the initial tune-up.
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