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Old 09-23-05, 12:31 PM   #1
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New lights from Cateye

Cateye has two new headlights:
http://www.cateye.com/en/products/vi...d=7&subCatId=2

The EL210 (left) with 5 white LEDs, Opticube lens technology and constant and flashing modes. And the EL510 (right)with a 1-watt LED, which appears to be a more compact version of the EL500. It also has high/low power modes, but still no blinking function (damn!).



Anyone seen these in the stores yet?
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I can't wait till they jam a 5watt luxeon in it. Mount 2 of those on your bike and you have some SERIOUS light.
They just have to get rid of their dumba$$ed cateye logo reflector and give it a smooth beam pattern like a halogen. 10 watts of luxeon would rival a HID.
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I can't wait till they jam a 5watt luxeon in it. Mount 2 of those on your bike and you have some SERIOUS light.
They just have to get rid of their dumba$$ed cateye logo reflector and give it a smooth beam pattern like a halogen. 10 watts of luxeon would rival a HID.
I just picked up a Nite Hawk Emitter and I must say I was very impressed. Sure the mount is kinda clunky and I don't particularly like the battery pack but the light output is outstanding! It throws a real beam of light out that you can see, not just a weak circle. It's not quite up to my Niteriders but for early fall morning commutes it's a great light.
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I have 2 cateye el500's, and I gotta say, I thought it was ok. On completely dark roads, with 1, up to maybe 10-15mph you were ok if you knew the area, barely. With 2, things got a bit better. But A single 5 watt luxeon has the equivalent light of a niterider but with much longer battery life.
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I have 2 cateye el500's, and I gotta say, I thought it was ok. On completely dark roads, with 1, up to maybe 10-15mph you were ok if you knew the area, barely. With 2, things got a bit better. But A single 5 watt luxeon has the equivalent light of a niterider but with much longer battery life.
And I'm waiting for them to come out in something. I think the Emitter is only 1 W and it is very impressive. I think it's optics are a bit better than the Cateye since it's just a parabolic refector without anything in the lense. I never have liked Cateye's optics.
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I just wish these multi-led lights would have a 50/50 blinking option. Seems that having some steady-on and some blink is ideal.
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The Light & Motion Vega with a 3W Luxeon is the highest powered commercial LED bike headlight I've seen yet. http://www.bikelights.com/Products/vega.htm
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4 watt LED.


12 watt LED... That's right, it's the same brightness as a HID light... 6-10 hours of battery life, unbreakable bulb with 130,000hrs of life.
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Speaking of high-powered LED headlamps... Lupine has something new to offer

12w, like that BLT system.
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NICE! I wonder how much the 12W lupine will cost. The 12W BLT is currently $700. Plus I think it's one humongous 12W LED assembly. The lupine is 4 3-watt assemblies, which is nice if they made it so you can throttle the amount of LED's you want on at one time.
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I just purchased a Cat Eye EL-500. It works very well.
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Nashbar is selling this:

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?sku=15430

that it says has a 5W Luxeon LED for ~$220. Of course I would go with multiple 3W Luxeon LED's rather than 5W ones because they last much longer.
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5W Luxeon is about 87 lumens, I believe.

To compare, a good HID system is about 670...
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Yeah, I was just about to correct that.

120 lumens according to the product site for the DiNotte Ultralight Light Set.

13.5w HID is 675 Lumens, per Light and Motion's website. And the battery life is way longer.

Dunno about halogen brightness, I saw a chart once but I've forgotten what it said.

I really hate the way they all spec brightness in watts. Watts tell you how much energy is burned, but they are not a reliable method of determining light output.

I see the main advantage of LED over HID to be that they are basically shatterproof, and they last a very very long time. No $80 bulb replacements there.
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http://nordicgroup.us/s78/wattslumens.html
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NICE! I wonder how much the 12W lupine will cost. The 12W BLT is currently $700. Plus I think it's one humongous 12W LED assembly. The lupine is 4 3-watt assemblies, which is nice if they made it so you can throttle the amount of LED's you want on at one time.
The lupine is $700 too

http://www.gretnabikes.com/product....d=179&cat_ind=7



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Wilma is the brightest LED light at this size. With 4 x 3 W brand new High Power LED's, ultra-fast temperature control and our own developed lens-system which is based on our longtime experience on lights, Wilma provides more than 380 Lumen. The lightpower is between our Passubio and Nightmare and finally provides an LED light which is not disapointing on the track. Wilma is easy to dimm and the possible low energy consumption makes extrem brightness and long burntimes reality. The LED plate can be upgraded by a simple plugsystem. So you can continouisly benifit from the developments on the LED sector. You will be at top level of technology without having to buy a new light. Details like a 3d adjustable mount, several programmable lightlevels from 1 - 12 W, active temperature control, adjustable capacity monitor, reserve tank etc. are a matter of course.



Bulb 4 High Power new generation LED's combined with an optimized lens technik. The lens was customized and developed by Lupine, therefore it works alot more efficient than a standard optic. Our own lens made it possible to tune the beam pattern and provide an excellent light for nightrides.
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Burn Time 12 watt = 5 hours 30 min.

7 watt = 9 hours

5 watt = 13 hours

3 watt = 22 hours

charge time: 5 hours

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