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Old 10-14-05, 08:07 AM   #1
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General Type Question....

I've just joined the group and plan to do some back-reading....but I wanted to get this question out there first.

I have been hired (along with one other person) by a city in Canada to create a bike advocacy program. We're at the point in our research where we're trying to get into the mind of the beginning biker.....why they get on the bike and what we should tell them before they do. Any feedback on the following questions would be greatly appreciated.

1) What do you think brings the beginning rider out?
2) What do you think to be the #1 mistake of the beginning rider?
3) If you could talk to the beginning rider before they go out, what
are the things would tell them?
4) What do you think that everyone should know but seldom seem to know
when they start riding?


Any consideration you could give to these questions would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 10-14-05, 10:11 AM   #2
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1) What do you think brings the beginning rider out?
2) What do you think to be the #1 mistake of the beginning rider?
3) If you could talk to the beginning rider before they go out, what
are the things would tell them?
4) What do you think that everyone should know but seldom seem to know
when they start riding?


Thanks,
Lex
1. Desire for improved health and recreation. Personally, I got back into cycling to drop some wieght and help deal with stress at work.
2. Overtraining. Don't hop on the bike and go for bonk each and every time out.
3. Base miles, base miles, base miles.
4. Cyclists MUST practice defensive riding. Too often auto drivers view cyclists as moving targets for verbal abuse and scare tactics.

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Old 10-14-05, 11:02 AM   #3
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1) What do you think brings the beginning rider out?
2) What do you think to be the #1 mistake of the beginning rider?
3) If you could talk to the beginning rider before they go out, what
are the things would tell them?
4) What do you think that everyone should know but seldom seem to know
when they start riding?
1. Trying to recapture the joy and freedom of their youth plus peer pressure. Cycling is hot right now.

2. Buy the wrong bike. Either they buy a barely rideable piece of junk from X-mart or they buy the lowest end comfort bike from a local bike shop or the buy the most expensive super bike from the same bike shop. The X-mart bike doesn't work, is too heavy and doesn't fit them properly and they stop riding it. The low end comfort bike is too heavy to ride up hills and suffers the same fate as the X-mart bike - being a place holder in the garage. The super bike is too twitchy, too complicated or just too expensive and the people that they want to ride with are so far above their level that they get frustrated and it too suffers the same fate as the X-mart bike. All three end up at a garage sale in the distant future.

3. Don't be afraid of the world. There are not a whole lot of *******, muggers, theives, murderers or even literers out there. People as a group are caring people. People who drive cars aren't bad people, they can just be incredibly stupid sometimes. Who hasn't made a mistake?

4. That riding a bike is a whole lot more fun then sitting in a car. You may not have heated seats but you can't hear the birds in your car.
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1) What do you think brings the beginning rider out?
2) What do you think to be the #1 mistake of the beginning rider?
3) If you could talk to the beginning rider before they go out, what
are the things would tell them?
4) What do you think that everyone should know but seldom seem to know
when they start riding?

Any consideration you could give to these questions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Lex
1. Better health, more relaxed lifestyle, save money, more ecological, fun, free, spontaneous, and something nearly all can enjoy. But those are reasons, not enticements. I guess I see them as one in the same.

2. Not riding the way that makes them feel most comfortable (physically and psychologically). Don't assume that your ride is supposed to be uncomfortable, get what's right for your needs. Don't assume that you have to ride faster than you like or more aggressively than you like, or any other way that's not you (within limits, of course).

3. Be careful, and have fun.

4. It gets easier.
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1) What do you think brings the beginning rider out?

I think initially here in the states it often begins with a trip to the local Walmart or similar store. I know that is unpopular, but for me it was a trip to Target that got me to looking at bikes a couple years ago.

2) What do you think to be the #1 mistake of the beginning rider?

Spending too much on a bike. Seriously, i really think this is the number one mistake. Most people go out and buy waaaaaaaaay more bike than they need and then end up quitting.

3) If you could talk to the beginning rider before they go out, what
are the things would tell them?


Look at the scenery and breathe the air. The bike is only part of the equation. God delivers the rest.

4) What do you think that everyone should know but seldom seem to know
when they start riding?


In many cases, long distances on a bicycle are very realistic. Many are suprised to learn that they can in a short amount of time progress to where they can ride over 100 miles in one day.
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Old 10-14-05, 03:24 PM   #6
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1) What do you think brings the beginning rider out?
2) What do you think to be the #1 mistake of the beginning rider?
3) If you could talk to the beginning rider before they go out, what
are the things would tell them?
4) What do you think that everyone should know but seldom seem to know
when they start riding?
Lex,

Man, that sounds like a really fun job...
  1. Recreation mixed with a little exercise, and getting from point A to point B in an environmentally friendly way.
  2. Buying too much bike; you don't need carbon fiber to knock around on.
  3. Be respectful of, but not afraid of, autos. Ride with traffic, not against it. Have fun!
  4. You are traffic. What you wear and what you ride doesn't matter as much as the riding.

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Old 10-14-05, 04:39 PM   #7
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1) What do you think brings the beginning rider out?
2) What do you think to be the #1 mistake of the beginning rider?
3) If you could talk to the beginning rider before they go out, what
are the things would tell them?
4) What do you think that everyone should know but seldom seem to know
when they start riding?
1) for me it was moving around in a relatively fast, environmentally sane and very fun way. i'd hate my life to be slow and inactive. riding my bike sure is better than walking

2) buying the wrong bike. i think it's important to ask for advice before investing in a bicycle and gear

3) know your limitations, be alert and considerate on the road

4) i think some beginner cyclist expect drivers to be protective and mindful of them. yeah well, NOT the case. defensive bicycling is the way to go
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1) What do you think brings the beginning rider out?
2) What do you think to be the #1 mistake of the beginning rider?
3) If you could talk to the beginning rider before they go out, what
are the things would tell them?
4) What do you think that everyone should know but seldom seem to know
when they start riding?
1) A sense of freedom.
2) Riding unsafely: without a helmet, without lights, against traffic, on the sidewalk. Basically, like a little kid, except that their dad isn't running along behind.
3) Wear your helmet, be safe and predictable.
4) How to fix a flat.
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4) What do you think that everyone should know but seldom seem to know
when they start riding?


Any consideration you could give to these questions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Lex
Rules of the road... many folks take off and recall some long past lesson about walking "against traffic," and then apply that to bicycling.

Cyclists should ride with the flow of traffic.

Here's a few basics every rider should know: http://bicyclesafe.com/
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Old 10-14-05, 09:30 PM   #11
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Thanks to everyone who responded....you've all been really helpful. We have a year in which to build this program so it'll be a challenge....but a fun one.

Cyccommute.....I just read your "Searching for Pie" blog. Let me first say WOW! 1,000 miles! Secondly, I don't think I've read anything quite so entertaining in a while. Your dry wit kept getting me the long side glance from my toddler who is probably sure that I'm losing my mind. LOL

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1) What do you think brings the beginning rider out?

Scenery (babes), fitness, fresh air, in roughly that order.


2) What do you think to be the #1 mistake of the beginning rider?

Spending way too much money on a bike. Going too fast too soon.


3) If you could talk to the beginning rider before they go out, what are the things would tell them?

Assume you're invisible in traffic. Bring tools and spare tubes. Lots of water and food on long rides. Know where gas-stations are for pit-stops along the way. Bring some cash.


4) What do you think that everyone should know but seldom seem to know when they start riding?

How to negotiate traffic. Ride and behave like a vehicle, not a pedestrian. Learn to interract with other riders.
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Check out a reecent series in Bicycling Magazine (Rodale Publishing).

http://www.bicycling.com/

They, along with a bicycling manufacturer, have designated a number of cities in which they have provided a hundred or more free bikes in the hopes of getting folks to use bikes more.

They have followed the usage carefully, and have presented the info, along with highlights of individual riders and their stories and motivation.

I think this would be your greatest resource for why beginning bikers bike.

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