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    Sniffles when cool

    Last year, starting in December, I had a cold which caused me all sorts of problems when bike riding. Definitely not fun having to sniff constantly or stop to blow my nose, only to have the problem resume virtually immediately.

    Believe it or not, this cold or whatever it was did not finally seem to go away until just this past November so I really had this problem for a long time.

    Well, I seem fine now as long as I'm just doing normal stuff, but when I ride my bike, the sniffles return. Here is the situation:

    I ride hours before sunrise and even in Hawaii, the temps during that time will get down to 65 eventually (right now it is around 68-70). The cooler it is, the worse the sniffles are. If it gets up to about 74, it is a big improvement. 72 or less is a real hassle.

    What I don't know is whether this is formost a sinus problem or an eye-watering problem. I know there is a connection between the eyes and nose so that if the eyes water, it can affect the nose. I do know that the cool air and speed of riding immediately gets my eyes watering.

    I wear regular glasses. I do not know if cycling glasses would have a positive effect on this or not.

    Anyway, surely I'm not the only person who deals with this. Does anyone have any ideas for a solution? I ride typically 50-70 miles each time (3 times a week) and this is darn annoying!

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    Read and enjoy!

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    Well, I went through the whole thread. Some of the things clearly won't help - such as the "farmer's blow". Even when I blow my nose, there is actually almost nothing that comes out. That's one of the reasons I think it is a little moisture from the eyes watering.

    What does confuse me is that once I first blow my nose, it seems I have to do it more often. Usually I'll manage to go 12 miles or so before I can't stand it anymore, but after that, it is more irritating and even trying to wait as long as I can, I'll still have to blow it much more often.

    I did make note of some of the medicines listed. I have tried taking some of the stuff the doctor gave me for the cold and it helps somewhat.

    Anyway, I'm wondering if the solution isn't with the nose, but with the eyes. Anyone with some experience riding with special cycling glasses to cut down how much cool air hits the eyes who can compare with how it is without such glasses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRCF
    Well, I went through the whole thread. Some of the things clearly won't help - such as the "farmer's blow". Even when I blow my nose, there is actually almost nothing that comes out. That's one of the reasons I think it is a little moisture from the eyes watering.

    What does confuse me is that once I first blow my nose, it seems I have to do it more often. Usually I'll manage to go 12 miles or so before I can't stand it anymore, but after that, it is more irritating and even trying to wait as long as I can, I'll still have to blow it much more often.

    I did make note of some of the medicines listed. I have tried taking some of the stuff the doctor gave me for the cold and it helps somewhat.

    Anyway, I'm wondering if the solution isn't with the nose, but with the eyes. Anyone with some experience riding with special cycling glasses to cut down how much cool air hits the eyes who can compare with how it is without such glasses?
    It's better with cycling glasses, but then, given the price of them, it's just as well.

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    I was given a pair for Christmas and used a highly praised specialised firm in the UK. I wasn't disapointed and I have a really complicated prescription and this was done with no extra charge. www.optilabs.com/
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    Cold air is DRY air, mate. Your body is responding the the
    dryiness of the air you are riding in.

    It is perfectly normal, and very desirable, for your nose
    and eyes to have excessive moisture when exposed to the
    dry cold winds by riding as you do. If they did not the
    delicate membranes of your sinus and eyes would be
    damaged from the dry air.

    That said, the one best , most workable , solution is to wear a
    quality face mask to hold in the moisture you exhale naturally.

    So there ain't nothin' wrong with you. Be glad your body is working
    as it's........supposed to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tightwad
    Cold air is DRY air, mate. Your body is responding the the
    dryiness of the air you are riding in.
    Good point. Still, it is obvious that I'm getting more moisture in then necessary - perhaps the eye issue adding to it. I need to check two things eventually - something to cover the nose to see what help that is and also some sort of cycling glasses to see if that does it, though I don't know how I'll be able to try them under these situations without buying.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onbike 1939
    I was given a pair for Christmas and used a highly praised specialised firm in the UK. I wasn't disapointed and I have a really complicated prescription and this was done with no extra charge. www.optilabs.com/
    Yeah, wearing prescriptions does complicate things for me I can't get the full effect by just trying a pair on since everything will be a bit blurry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRCF
    Good point. Still, it is obvious that I'm getting more moisture in then necessary - perhaps the eye issue adding to it. I need to check two things eventually - something to cover the nose to see what help that is and also some sort of cycling glasses to see if that does it, though I don't know how I'll be able to try them under these situations without buying.

    Thanks.
    Give this a try before you spend any money........
    Get a BIG bandana and tie it over your nose cowboy bandit style and borrow a pair of goggles.
    The ride a couple of times making sure that it's as cold as you can get before you consider the
    trial over. IF this works then you need to visit Nashbar for a face mask and find a "bubble style"
    goggle setup used for motorcycles. One other choice is a lightweight full face motorcycle helmet
    and a neck scarf or turtle neck to close the bottom of the helmet a bit to hold more moisture.

    Either way ride for at least enough times set up this way to determine if you need a doctors help
    or it's just the way your body is. Just make sure that you are re-breathing some of the moisture
    you exhale to stop the trigger reflex that gives you the 'drippies". Best of luck.

    I know when I clear snow my nose runs like a mountain stream!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tightwad
    Cold air is DRY air, mate. Your body is responding the the
    dryiness of the air you are riding in.

    It is perfectly normal, and very desirable, for your nose
    and eyes to have excessive moisture when exposed to the
    dry cold winds by riding as you do. If they did not the
    delicate membranes of your sinus and eyes would be
    damaged from the dry air.

    That said, the one best , most workable , solution is to wear a
    quality face mask to hold in the moisture you exhale naturally.

    So there ain't nothin' wrong with you. Be glad your body is working
    as it's........supposed to
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    I don't know about Hawaii, but around here, in the summer time, when the temp goes down at night, the relative humidity goes way up. Cold air can't hold as much moisture. That's why we have dew.

    To the OP: I don't mean to minimize your problem, but is this really such a big deal that it is interfering with your enjoyment of cycling? I know people who ride with some pretty significant handicaps, or with a lot of pain in their joints and muscles. They don't carry on and complain as much as you do about a little runny nose. Furthermore, if you lived where it really gets cold, like most of us do, you would have a runny nose for pretty much half the year.

    So why don't you buck up a little, try to be a grown-up, be a man or whatever. Zheeesh!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tightwad
    Cold air is DRY air, mate. Your body is responding the the
    dryiness of the air you are riding in.

    It is perfectly normal, and very desirable, for your nose
    and eyes to have excessive moisture when exposed to the
    dry cold winds by riding as you do. If they did not the
    delicate membranes of your sinus and eyes would be
    damaged from the dry air.

    That said, the one best , most workable , solution is to wear a
    quality face mask to hold in the moisture you exhale naturally.

    So there ain't nothin' wrong with you. Be glad your body is working
    as it's........supposed to.
    Did you read the OP? He's in Hawaii for gosh sakes with a temprature all the way dowwn to 65 dang degrees!! Tempratures below 72 are allegedly a "real hassle." I can't believe the OP was serious.

    Face mask? Cold Dry Air? Good Lord! What's next, recommending hot water bottles inside his down parka for such extreme cold weather as found in Oahu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRCF
    Last year, starting in December, I had a cold which caused me all sorts of problems when bike riding. Definitely not fun having to sniff constantly or stop to blow my nose, only to have the problem resume virtually immediately.

    Believe it or not, this cold or whatever it was did not finally seem to go away until just this past November so I really had this problem for a long time.

    Did you see a Dr about it? No "cold" lasts that long. That sounds more like allergies to me ... or maybe asthma.



    Quote Originally Posted by TheRCF
    I ride hours before sunrise and even in Hawaii, the temps during that time will get down to 65 eventually (right now it is around 68-70). The cooler it is, the worse the sniffles are. If it gets up to about 74, it is a big improvement. 72 or less is a real hassle.

    I just needed to point out that 65F is WARM bordering on HOT! And where I live, I think it got over 74F maybe a half-dozen times this past summer.


    My point behind posting that link was to let you know that you are not alone. It is very normal. Why do you think they put terry nose wipers onto the thumbs of our cycling gloves? You just have to laugh about it, and deal with it.

    But here's a solution that works well for me ... I ride in COLD temperatures where it all freezes into icicles ... and then I just break them off and toss them away!! No need to stop to blow my nose or anything!!

    However my century last weekend was so annoying ... it was only -3F ... and not quite cold enough to make icicles!!

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    I can probably work on the bandana part, but don't know anyone with goggles, but I'll ask around. Thanks.

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    > ]I don't know about Hawaii, but around here, in the summer time, when the temp goes down at night, the relative humidity goes way up. <

    Yeah, the humidity is higher at night - upper 70% range usually. By mid afternoon it might be 20% lower. Riding home is usually no problem though because by the time I eat breakfast and head home, it is a little bit warmer.

    > I don't mean to minimize your problem, but is this really such a big deal that it is interfering with your enjoyment of cycling? I know people who ride with some pretty significant handicaps, or with a lot of pain in their joints and muscles. They don't carry on and complain as much as you do about a little runny nose. <

    Well, I have a bad back too which can get pretty darn painful, but I already know I'm doing all I can for that so I don't talk about it. But I don't know if I have done everything I can about the sniffles and since it certainly is a negative thing, I try to find ways to make it better.

    I fail to find anything wrong with that in any way at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
    Did you read the OP? He's in Hawaii for gosh sakes with a temprature all the way dowwn to 65 dang degrees!! Tempratures below 72 are allegedly a "real hassle." I can't believe the OP was serious.

    Face mask? Cold Dry Air? Good Lord! What's next, recommending hot water bottles inside his down parka for such extreme cold weather as found in Oahu?
    Oh, okay, I see I have a couple people into criticizing me personally just because I want to make my rides as pleasant as possible.

    If you want to be judgmental, just don't bother posting in the thread. Geez.

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    I saw a doctor a number of times during this period. The theory was the cold led to a new allergy or something. Why it finally stopped as far as ordinary situations are concerned is something I don't know.

    > I just needed to point out that 65F is WARM bordering on HOT! And where I live, I think it got over 74F maybe a half-dozen times this past summer. <

    One thing I found long ago is that your body adjusts to what it normally deals with. After all, go through a winter where it is well below freezing day after day and then suddenly have a day where it is 50 and it will feel warm. But if in the summer when it might be in the 90's daily, 70 degrees will feel cool. Then there are the more general trends. For the couple years here, I never felt cool, but now I sometimes do. People commonly talk about the blood getting thinner - I don't think that is the reason, but something causes the change in how a given temperature feels. I suspect just getting older factors in as well - many older people tend to feel the cold more than young people.

    > My point behind posting that link was to let you know that you are not alone. It is very normal. Why do you think they put terry nose wipers onto the thumbs of our cycling gloves? You just have to laugh about it, and deal with it. <

    Oh, I'm dealing with it - still riding 50-70+ miles regardless - but I'm a firm believer in finding solutions or just things that make things better if possible and the only way to find out if there are any is to ask.

    It would be silly to put up with something if I could find a solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRCF
    I saw a doctor a number of times during this period. The theory was the cold led to a new allergy or something. Why it finally stopped as far as ordinary situations are concerned is something I don't know.
    Did something change in your environment ... at home or at work? For example, did you have a pet, but you don't now? Were you using feather pillows, but you aren't now? Did you used to subscribe to the newspaper, but you aren't anymore?



    Quote Originally Posted by TheRCF
    > I just needed to point out that 65F is WARM bordering on HOT! And where I live, I think it got over 74F maybe a half-dozen times this past summer. <

    One thing I found long ago is that your body adjusts to what it normally deals with. After all, go through a winter where it is well below freezing day after day and then suddenly have a day where it is 50 and it will feel warm. But if in the summer when it might be in the 90's daily, 70 degrees will feel cool. Then there are the more general trends. For the couple years here, I never felt cool, but now I sometimes do. People commonly talk about the blood getting thinner - I don't think that is the reason, but something causes the change in how a given temperature feels. I suspect just getting older factors in as well - many older people tend to feel the cold more than young people.
    Yes, I know ... I even posted something about biological adaptations in the Winter Forum. But it still strikes me as funny when people post about temperatures in the high 60s/low 70s as being "cool" when I literally did not experience temperatures that warm this past summer, except on the odd occasion. We had a very cool summer and were thrilled with any days that got that hot!!


    Quote Originally Posted by TheRCF
    > My point behind posting that link was to let you know that you are not alone. It is very normal. Why do you think they put terry nose wipers onto the thumbs of our cycling gloves? You just have to laugh about it, and deal with it. <

    Oh, I'm dealing with it - still riding 50-70+ miles regardless - but I'm a firm believer in finding solutions or just things that make things better if possible and the only way to find out if there are any is to ask.

    It would be silly to put up with something if I could find a solution.

    Well ... all I can suggest is that you do what the rest of us do ... use the terry nose wipers built into your gloves!

    As someone pointed out, it is a normal and good bodily function. I have been in situations where everything dried up, for one reason or another ... and I usually end up with nose bleeds in those situations. I'd much rather deal with a little "moisture" which can be wiped away with my glove, or blown away in a "snot rocket", than to have to try to stop a nose bleed while standing by the side of the road. Believe me ... that's MUCH more annoying!!

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    Nothing changed that I know of - but I also know that you can develop new allergies at any time. Apparently you can get rid of them too, at least I used to have terrible hay fever for most of my life and then one summer it was much milder. The next summer was even less. By the third summer, I hardly noticed it.

    I agree that it is funny to talk about 65 as being cool compared to what most people deal with. But it is also a fact that it is cool in a very real sense. I don't know what temps cause you or others to wear what - outside of when I was a kid, I've only ridden a bike in Hawaii - but right now I wear the bike shorts, a bike jersey, and if it is 70 or below, a very light bicycle jacket. It doesn't keep you warm by itself, but it holds the heat in pretty well when you start working hard. Often I end up sweating a bit on the inside of it while elsewhere I feel a little cold.

    Anyway, I understand the "funny" part about what I describe, but why a couple other posters feel a need to make personal attacks about it is beyond my ability to understand.

    I still have a hunch the real problem is the eyes watering - adding more than the normal amount of moisture I would get in the nose in this situation. Gotta find some goggles to test the theory though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRCF
    Anyway, I understand the "funny" part about what I describe, but why a couple other posters feel a need to make personal attacks about it is beyond my ability to understand.
    No personal attack intended. Just a recommendation, I have 18 months experience with Oahu as well as 28 years cycling AFTER back surgery. Wipe your nose if it runs , and stop whining about the cold weather in Oahu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
    No personal attack intended. Just a recommendation, I have 18 months experience with Oahu as well as 28 years cycling AFTER back surgery. Wipe your nose if it runs , and stop whining about the cold weather in Oahu.
    Did we have a bad Christmas?? Or is our personallity this bad all the time?????

    The guy asked for help and sharing not the spew you offered. Good Grief..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
    No personal attack intended. Just a recommendation, I have 18 months experience with Oahu as well as 28 years cycling AFTER back surgery. Wipe your nose if it runs , and stop whining about the cold weather in Oahu.
    For someone not intending to make a personal attack, you sure do a fine job of making them.

    I didn't whine about anything, merely pointing out that it can get cool (not cold) in Hawaii since there are some people who probably think it is even warmer than it is.

    And whether or not you personally think it is not that cool doesn't really matter, does it? The fact is that it is cool enough to cause what I described and if I have a choice of putting up with it or finding a solution, I'll try to find a solution.

    It's no different than people trying to find better or lighter equipment to make their riding better.

    The only reason I brought my back problem up was to show that I deal with whatever I have to deal with but until I know there are no solutions, I try to find them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tightwad
    Did we have a bad Christmas?? Or is our personallity this bad all the time?????

    The guy asked for help and sharing not the spew you offered. Good Grief..........
    The guy complained about a runny nose and cold weather in Hawaii. Yikes some cyclists will never be satisfied. And found a support group for such woes. Unbelievable! My heart really goes out for cyclists who endure the hardships of cycling in the cool dry air of Oahu.

    Actually riding was quite good here today. The temperature reached 51 and I could wear shorts while cycling and taking care of a few chores before today's two bowl games come on TV. The snow from the last couple of weeks is finally melting. And the tiny bit of frost bite on my ear that I got cycling to work two weeks ago at -1 F. is all healed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
    The guy complained about a runny nose and cold weather in Hawaii. Yikes some cyclists will never be satisfied. And found a support group for such woes. Unbelievable!
    Never said "cold" weather. Yikes, some cyclists can't read! Actually, it wasn't cool weather I complained about either - just what it led to.

    And yeah, I complained about a runny nose. I wasn't aware that a runny nose improved the enjoyment of bike riding, but maybe that's just me.

    Oh, and I suspect you were not satisfied with the status quo of bike riding either, unless you are always riding with the same equipment as you did over 20 years ago.

    But, nice to no you aren't personally attacking me.

    You might want to check into a support group for those who are intent on criticizing others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
    Did you read the OP? He's in Hawaii for gosh sakes with a temprature all the way dowwn to 65 dang degrees!! Tempratures below 72 are allegedly a "real hassle." I can't believe the OP was serious.

    Face mask? Cold Dry Air? Good Lord! What's next, recommending hot water bottles inside his down parka for such extreme cold weather as found in Oahu?
    dude, wtf. I grew up in hawaii and spent most of my life there. Let me tell you, aside from the humidity, that you WILL get cold on some nights after you've lived there for a while. Sure, it's not frostbite cold, but it still sucks.

    For example: I had an uncle from MONTANA visit us in hawaii for 3 weeks. for the first two weeks, he didn't use a blanket to sleep with because it was so freakin' warm compared to Montana (it was feb). Once the 2 week mark passed by, he had to use a freakin' blanket.

    I complain that it can get cold in Portland, but I know for a fact that it gets much colder in other states.

    To the OP: we all get the sniffles. To be honest, I have them year-round. My solution: keep biking and keep breathing. Minahz, brah. You mentioned that you have the urge to blow your nose while you're riding and nothing comes out. My suggestion to that: get some biking gloves and wipe your nose instead of trying to blow it. Either that, or you have some serious allergies, which doesn't suprise me at all since I had major allergy problems in Hawaii, too. Look into some meds.

    shoots good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpokesInMyPoop
    dude, wtf...My solution: keep biking and keep breathing.
    Good plan, beats the alternatives.

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