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Old 12-26-05, 02:35 PM   #1
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New York 3000 U-lock

ok so I had a shop order the new york3000 lock for me. Just a few minutes ago I rode up to REI. They carry u-locks by a company called Bulldog, I think. I have heard bad things about this company, but I looked at a similar size lock to the ny3000, but the bulldog brand. the 4x8" bulldog u-lock is MASSIVE. The main cylindrical piece where the key goes in is HUGE.

Im scared that the Kryptonite lock is massive just like this one.

So, the purpose of this post. Does anyone have the NY3000 lock? Doyou have any pictures of it locking up your ride? Also, do you have any pictures of it, being held, just so I can get a good idea of its size.

Thanks so much in advance.
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Old 12-26-05, 03:50 PM   #2
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the bigger the better... just be glad you didn't get the m18-wl... it makes the 3000 look small.
Patently false. The smaller the better. Less place to put leveraging devices inside it. Of course i'd recommend you just get a good chain + padlock.
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Old 12-26-05, 04:35 PM   #3
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Patently false. The smaller the better. Less place to put leveraging devices inside it. Of course i'd recommend you just get a good chain + padlock.
I have then New York lock - it's HUGE. A lot bigger and heavier than I thought it was going to be. I'm not home right now, otherwise I'd send you a picture. I think the NYC lock has the locking mechanism on both sides, whereas the OnGuard has it only on one? Something like that.

Although the NYC lock is heavy big and bulky, I trust it. Isn't that most important?
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Old 12-26-05, 06:50 PM   #4
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I believe the large OnGuard locks have a larger diameter crosspiece than the Kryptonite NY 3000. But the NY3000 is an excellent lock if you don't want anyone to steal your bike. It's not lightweight, but it is secure.
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Old 12-26-05, 09:31 PM   #5
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The NY 3000 is big. It also weighs about 4.5 lbs. It locks on both ends of the shackle so if someone was to cut one side, it won't open. It's a very secure lock.
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Old 12-26-05, 10:27 PM   #6
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The Onguard locks lock on both sides of the U as well.

The NY lock is a great hunk of metal.

There is supposed to be a mini version coming next Month.

It will still be a great hunk of metal, just not as great.
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Old 12-26-05, 10:51 PM   #7
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Patently false. The smaller the better. Less place to put leveraging devices inside it. Of course I’d recommend you just get a good chain + padlock.
What is not clear is that Merton is referring to the diameter of the U loop bars and the locking cylinder. The space inside the loop is a little smaller. I have one that is even narrower than Merton’s.
I use mine as a mooring for an aircraft carrier when I'm not using it on my bike.



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The NY 3000 is big. It also weighs about 4.5 lbs. It locks on both ends of the shackle so if someone was to cut one side, it won't open. It's a very secure lock.
Krypto's web page says 3.9. Close enough, I know you mean big and heavy.



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Im scared that the Kryptonite lock is massive just like this one.
All the specs are on Kryptonite’s web site. Size, weight, etc.

Come to think of it the specs for everything seem to be on the internet.
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Old 12-26-05, 11:07 PM   #8
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My NY 3000 has been attacked several times with bolt clippers and survived. One person even tried to rip the bike from the fence and failed. This lock has battle scars but it survived when all was said and done.

To me, this is a commuter lock best left at your destination when commuting to work. You don't want to carry this lock on the weekends during club rides.
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Old 12-27-05, 12:19 AM   #9
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were you in philly or new york when this happend? I see your from NJ, so I chose the nearest city(s).

Although Id be so happy the lock did its job, I'd still be heartbroken that some ******* tried to jack my ride.
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Old 12-27-05, 12:33 AM   #10
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The monstrous KRYPTONITE on the chain sheath turned me off. (Maybe I can turn that stupid thing inside out?) I'm going to look around and see if I can just get a large enough chain on my own and use a huge tamper-resistant lock I already own. It's one of those locks that is circular, bought it for a storage place I used to rent.
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Old 12-27-05, 12:56 AM   #11
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how funny. Is it a buffalo lock? I currently use a thick chain with a buffalo circular lock on it. I also have it from an old storage unit. But its a real hassle to hold both chain ends together, line up the lock, and turn the key, all with 2 hands. So it usually takes like a minute to lock up, it sucks.
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Old 12-27-05, 03:38 AM   #12
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The monstrous KRYPTONITE on the chain sheath turned me off. (Maybe I can turn that stupid thing inside out?) I'm going to look around and see if I can just get a large enough chain on my own and use a huge tamper-resistant lock I already own. It's one of those locks that is circular, bought it for a storage place I used to rent.
The chains that you will find at a hardware store are made of a softer metal. Even the hardened chains aren't nearly good enough. A guy with a big boltcutter or a powertool will make short work of it, even the ones with links as big and thick as a NY chain. Watch how quickly the hardware store guys cut it.
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Old 12-27-05, 08:22 AM   #13
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They are both very heavy (Bulldog and Krypto)

I have the NYC3000 not much room to attach to frame (inside)
I don't carry a water bottle when I carry my Krypto but then again, I am just out doing errands when I do. So I don't need the hydration of a longer ride.
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were you in philly or new york when this happend? I see your from NJ, so I chose the nearest city(s).

Although Id be so happy the lock did its job, I'd still be heartbroken that some ******* tried to jack my ride.
It happend in New Jersey and New York City. I made the mistake back then of putting the bike on bike rack and it took a beating from the crooks. Overall, it's the best lock in the business but it's like carrying a bike frame
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Old 12-28-05, 07:35 PM   #15
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The average dumb, impulsive street thug using leverage attacks and prying attacks. So, a "mini" U-lock, such as the Kryptonite Evolution is be much more effective than you might expect from its under two pounds of weight. When a Kryptonite or OnGuard Mini lock is around the rear wheel and a beefy steel post, there is little room left for effective prying type attacks.

If someone is willing to lug around four or five pounds of weight, both the Kryptonite NY 3000 and the OnGuard Brute can defeat any sort of leverage or prying attack. Both can be cut with power cutting tools, but doing so takes several minutes with the Brute, and over ten minutes with the NY 3000. And, if you use one of the "super" locks around the rear wheel, and add a "mini" lock on the front wheel, even an ambitious crook will go hunting for an easier target.
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