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Old 12-27-05, 11:53 AM   #1
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Tracking A Stolen Bike

You know, I was thinking, now they are making microchips for dogs, which dont cost very much at all.

They should come out with a tiny little piece, that you can slip down your seat tube or something to get it down inside your frame, unnoticable, and it basically isnt activated until you need it to be. Say your bike gets stolen, you call a hotline, they activate the chip, they track the chip, and whala , you know the exact location of your bike. Call the cops, let them know, have them escort you to the location to reclaim your bicycle and lock away the thiefs.

Does this sound a little too overboard? I dont think so, with the high rate of bicycle theft, I think it would be a brilliant way to track our bikes when they are stolen, and at the same time, arrest the thiefs. Maybe the chip could be in the form of a sticker, like the things they sometimes put on clothing, or cd's. You could just stick it to the inside wall of your frame, and wala, a descrete tracking device.


What you ya'll think of this.
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Old 12-27-05, 11:56 AM   #2
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Great idea if you can get it on the frame of the bike. Bad idea for saving tires, seat posts and other detachable devices.
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Old 12-27-05, 12:20 PM   #3
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Microchips don't work like that. They can't be tracked via satellite. The range is usually only a few feet. It only helps identifying the owner of the dog or bike once it is found.
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Old 12-27-05, 12:53 PM   #4
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Microchips don't work like that. They can't be tracked via satellite. The range is usually only a few feet. It only helps identifying the owner of the dog or bike once it is found.
Yes this is correct. The only use for such a thing would be to identify the bike when found. I doubt if law enforcement or bike stores would want to invest in a scanner for this purpose.
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Old 12-27-05, 02:20 PM   #5
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Yes this is correct. The only use for such a thing would be to identify the bike when found. I doubt if law enforcement or bike stores would want to invest in a scanner for this purpose.
Actually Law enforcement might be very open to the idea. Oh not if it JUST was used for bikes, but it could be used for a huge numebr of items.

BUT thiefs would likely follow suit and soon have the scanners to check for chips and then deal with things. Of course once some models of bikes (and other items) were known to be chipped it would make any such item look stolen if there was no chip response.
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Old 12-27-05, 03:10 PM   #6
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LoJack and OnStar both work in the way that you suggest. I haven't checked into it, but I don't think they make a bicycle version.

I can hear the commercial now...

OnStar: Hello, OnStar.

Customer: Please help me! I crashed my bike and the saddle is now cranked to the side.(weeping)

OnStar: Sir, are you injured?

Customer: No, but my bike...

OnStar: Sir, do you have a wrench?

Customer: No, I don't have any tools with me... I don't know what to do!

OnStar: OK, sir, I need you to stay calm and listen very closely. Is there a quick release lever on the seatpost?

Customer: (sniffles--sighs) Let me see... No, it's a binder bolt... (panicky) Help me, please!

OnStar: Sir, take a deep breath. I'm dispatching help now. I'll stay on the line until they get there.

Customer: Oh, bless you. Thank you so much.
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Old 12-27-05, 03:18 PM   #7
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Yes this is correct. The only use for such a thing would be to identify the bike when found. I doubt if law enforcement or bike stores would want to invest in a scanner for this purpose.
It's being used in England. I don't know how wide spread it is. They go down the seat tube.

And for dogs in the USA. Placed under the skin.
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Old 12-27-05, 03:43 PM   #8
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So, if the police find the lost bike - they take it to your vet?
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- radioactive isotopes...

- actually though, direction-finding is not out of the realm of possibility here... transmitters are small enough to be traced with the right equipment... but you'll need an Amateur Radio license from the FCC (no big deal - 35 question, multiple-guess test and you've got a license good for 10 years)

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Old 12-27-05, 06:05 PM   #11
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- radioactive isotopes...

- actually though, direction-finding is not out of the realm of possibility here... transmitters are small enough to be traced with the right equipment... but you'll need an Amateur Radio license from the FCC (no big deal - 35 question, multiple-guess test and you've got a license good for 10 years)

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Just ask Lance if he would want to have radioactive isotopes under his seat. I think I would rather have my bike remain stolen!
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Old 12-27-05, 06:29 PM   #12
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Radioactive isotopes, big deal... They are in your smoke detector!
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I'm surprised that no one has questioned the additional weight of a microchip or other such device.
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So, if the police find the lost bike - they take it to your vet?



They stopped engraving the serial numbers in the bottom of the dogs!

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http://www.datatag.co.uk/



Datatag for cycles offers a multi-layer approach to identification that makes life difficult for even professional thieves! The kit is simple to fit and includes both visible and hidden identifiers including a Datatag transponder that gives your bike a unique electronic finger print. Bike theft is well known to be a problem and many owners think that just by registering them on some database that theft will miraculously stop but the truth is that registration without the right identification system just doesn’t work?
The Datatag system offers the premier identifiers combined with probably the most sophisticated database ever devised. Equally importantly Datatag works with the Police to back up the product and provides free scanning equipment, database access on a 24/7 basis as well as technical training. Owners of Datatagged cycles also benefit from reduced premiums from the major insurers. For Cycle security there is only one choice.

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I just curl a business card and slip it all the way down the seat-tube. It's got a little note to the effect of "If this bike not brought in my me, it's stolen, call me".
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Radioactive isotopes, big deal... They are in your smoke detector!
Yes but I don't wear my smoke detector strapped to my crotch. Well not usually..................

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Old 12-28-05, 04:20 PM   #17
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I just curl a business card and slip it all the way down the seat-tube. It's got a little note to the effect of "If this bike not brought in my me, it's stolen, call me".
That is a very good idea. But let's just hope the bad guys don't read the forum.


But I just wonder if this would work. First the mechanic would need to remove the seat tube, actually read the card and know that the person bringing in the bike is not "me" or confront the customer by asking him his name.
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Old 12-28-05, 08:35 PM   #18
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Stick a business card in your handlebars, seatpost and seat tube.
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Stick a business card in your handlebars, seatpost and seat tube.
Be sure to laminate it, so it doesn't dissolve.
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Here's one, drop a thinger in your seattube, make a sticker with your printer that says "Last looser who ripped my bike -lift and shake -his finger, put the bike down and f-off quick."

Laminate and tape to the toptube.
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